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This National Archives videocast transcript from July 2012 features Dr David Clarke discussing the ninth release of UFO files, 25 files of about 7000 pages. He describes a 1993 policy paper by an intelligence officer arguing that DI55 and the MoD should study UFOs because of national security implications. He also covers the 1977 to 1978 'Welsh Triangle' sightings in Pembrokeshire, a 2005 Brighton report attributed to Chinese lanterns, and a 1978 intelligence brief arguing against extraterrestrial visits.
Dr David Clarke discusses the newly released UFO files at The National Archives This is the 9th collection of UFO files to arrive at The National Archives in Kew and this consists of 25 separate files and somewhere around 7000 pages of information. So the papers that have been released today talk about the motives behind an intelligence study that was carried out, what kind of things did they reveal? Well, the intelligence officer was really keen to have this study commissioned. There are some very interesting papers in the policy file from 1993 where he is briefing on the subject and he is saying it is not because he talks to little green men every night, it‟s just that he thinks this is a subject that the DI55 and the MoD should take seriously because no study had been conducted. During his brief he lists a number of possibilities about what UFOs could possibly be. One of them is mass hallucinations and we can rule that out, some of them are hoaxes. There is a lot of nonsense that is written about the subject but despite that, there are still a large number of sightings by credible observers such as military pilots, air traffic controllers, police officers, that type of thing. One thing he says is that some of these sightings could have been caused by secret aircraft - black project aircraft - perhaps piloted by the Americans or even by the Russians or Chinese which can‟t be ruled out. He then goes into all the possible natural explanations such as clouds and ball lightning, meteors, and he has to consider the possibility that some of them could be extra- terrestrial life forms. He says that that is possible, but there is no direct evidence. Now if any of those possibilities such as the extra-terrestrials or the black project aircraft were true there are implications for national security. And he says that the national security implications are considerable because we have many reports of strange objects in the sky and we have never investigated them. If they are American then there is probably no threat to national security although it would be most alarming if they were flying around without clearance in our airspace. If the aircraft were Russian or Chinese then there would be a threat to national security and we would urgently need to establish the nature of the craft and its capability. And then we return to the possibility that they could be alien or extra-terrestrial and he states that “if the devices are not of this earth then their purpose needs to be established as a matter of priority”. He says “there has been no apparent hostile intent” but the other possibilities are: military reconnaissance, scientific or even tourism. So they would be coming here as we would go to another country or a national park, they are coming across the universe to visit us. He then adds another little interesting thing which turns up in the file report which was produced, he says, “if these reports are taken at face value then devices exist that do not use conventional reaction propulsion systems and they have a very wide range of speeds and are stealthy” and he suggests that we could use this technology if it exists. If we could capture one of these things it could probably be used as some kind of battlefield weapon or new technology. As with previous releases there are several sightings reports in this collection of files, could you tell us a little bit about some of those?
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