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George Knapp written testimony

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concluded that this was a message sent by the UFO. By the way, while I have spoken publicly about
the Ukraine incident a few times over the years since I returned from Russia, I have never made public
the witness statements, all of them Russian military officers. The Task Force has now been supplied
with copies of all of those statements.
Another of the most unsettling findings during the visits to Russia is what we learned from a Russian
physicist, Dr. Rimili Avramenko. He showed us a table model of what he called “the weapon of the
aliens.” It was a plasma beam generator, and he demonstrated what that little model could do, burning
an instantaneous hole in a razor blade. Avramenko and other military figures told us that Russia is well
aware of ongoing secretive programs in the U.S. wherein our agencies monitor and collect UFO
information via advanced sensor platforms in an effort to understand and duplicate the technology—in
other words, reverse engineering. I met with and interviewed dozens of Russians during my two visits
in the ’90s and believe the overall meaning of their considerable efforts is that they take UFOs
seriously and that all of that research and resources over so many years was carried out for the purpose
of building and deploying their own versions of the advanced technology they had seen in their skies,
on land, and underwater. They know that we know what the Russians are doing, and the Russians
know what we know what they have been doing. The difference is, the Russians essentially admitted
this back in the ’90s, while their American counterparts still pretend none of this is real and tell the
same old lies to the public and to Congress.
One other note on the Russian files. After I shared much of this material with AAWSAP and BAASS,
they put a team together to do translations and analysis, far more than I could do on my own. The full
report is included in one of those unreleased papers submitted to DIA and still bottled up there, but we
were allowed to publish a brief synopsis, which reveals that there was a much larger program than
Thread III, a shadowy group known as Unit 73790, which controlled three separate UFO programs, so
a much larger effort than anyone has known before. It looks like they were way ahead of us as far as 30
years ago.
George Knapp
Chief Investigative Reporter, KLAS-TV

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