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George Knapp written testimony

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movements, the maneuverability and quick angles, and because UFOs could be seen visually but not
on radar, or seen on radar but not visually. Quote, “If the secrets of the UFOs could be discovered, we
would be able to win the competition against our potential enemies in terms of velocity, materials, and
visibility.” The fighter planes could intercept, but in three cases where Russian planes fired…
In other words, the Russians were trying to reverse engineer UFOs. That was underway decades ago.
Sokolov and his files documented highly alarming encounters, similar to what our own military has
encountered. He told me, on camera, there had been 40 incidents in which Russian fighter planes were
sent to intercept unknown craft. In most of those cases, the UFOs zipped away before the pilots could
shoot at the unknowns, but in three cases where the MiGs did fire, the planes fell out of the sky. Two of
those pilots died. After that, the standing order changed. When you see a UFO, change course and get
out. I was able to get a follow-up to this policy when I returned to Moscow in 1996 and interviewed
General Igor Maltsev, who had issued that standing order. He explained that the pilots were told to
leave the UFOs alone because, quote, “they could have incredible capacities for retaliation.” The
Ministry of Defense folks shared with me photos of Russian MiGs that tried to intercept UFOs but had
their wings clipped in mid-air collisions. (I have provided photos to the Task Force.)
There were also dozens of cases, Sokolov says, in which ground forces fired upon UFOs, but the on-
the-ground soldiers say UFOs knocked out car engines, along with radar, radio, and communications
systems. There are also a few incidents in those files in which military personnel were literally frozen
—immobilized—when they tried to shoot down the UFOs.
The Russians had been studying UFOs as far back as Roswell in 1947. Stalin had an interest and had
tasked his top scientists to find out what had crashed at Roswell. They eventually told Stalin it wasn’t
any craft known to exist on Earth, wasn’t American, certainly wasn’t Russian. For decades afterward,
the official position of the USSR was that UFOs were a propaganda distraction manufactured by the
West and discouraged any public interest or investigation. Behind the scenes, they tasked scientists and
intelligence assets to find out what these things were and whether the Russians could build their own.
Basically, the USSR was doing the same thing our own government has done all these years: tell the
public one thing and do the opposite in secrecy. In other words, lie.
The most disturbing incident I was able to document after reading the files and speaking to Russian
military leaders who were part of these classified programs occurred in October 1982 at a missile base
in Ukraine. These missiles were meant to be fired at Western targets, including the U.S. The report had
been sent to the chief of the general, their version of the Joint Chiefs. A UFO had appeared over the
Ukraine missile base. It was observed for four hours. In that time, the UFO split into pieces, merged
back together, displayed amazing velocity and other abilities, and then, unexpectedly, something or
someone entered the correct launch codes for the missiles. In Sokolov’s words, it was a “spontaneous
illumination of all displays.” Those missiles fired up and appeared ready to be launched. The officers at
the controls could not shut them down. They tried their best to disengage but could not. This was
World War III about ready to start, and there was nothing the Russians could do to stop it.
And then, poof. The UFOs vanished in an instant, and when they did, the missiles turned themselves
off. Colonel Sokolov and his team were sent from Moscow to investigate. They took apart the control
panels but could not find anything wrong. This was not a power surge or a security test using EMP or
any of the other weak cover stories that have been used in this country to try to debunk or explain away
similar events that have been reported at our own nuclear missile facilities. The Ministry of Defense

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