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This is the transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. AARO Director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick testified on the office's mission, budget, data collection and review of the historical record. He said AARO had found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity or off-world technology. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, and one of them was resolved as a commuter aircraft.
21 What that would tell us is what [inaudible] and the corporal has been saying. Assuming that they are coming here is the assump- tion. A terrible thing to do. If we can prove that they have always existed, then they are not changing in model, size, appearance, then it would answer the question of these people in the sky have always [inaudible]. I have had to struggle trying to get the evidence we saved, and I did contact Neil deGrasse Tyson and he informed me with an email, which I put in my book and about these crafts. I find them and film them and send them to everybody I can. He told me to literally take them to the proper authorities and that I could get my evidence looked at and that is what I am doing today. I drove all the way from Ohio, Mr. Kirkpatrick. Senator GILLIBRAND. Dr. Kirkpatrick is the perfect person to give your evidence to—— Audience Member: Yes, I appreciate it. Senator GILLIBRAND. Eventually, we will have a website where you could just submit it and not have to go 600 miles. Today, since you are here, please submit your evidence to Dr. Kirkpatrick and if you have copies we will take your copies. Audience Member: I have footage. I have grown up in Albu- querque, New Mexico. Audience Member: Same here. Audience Member: I have on my phone three different examples of glowing dots flying in circles or going over Sandia Labs and Kirkland Air Force Base. Senator GILLIBRAND. Yes. Yes. Audience Member: They have come down frequently and consist- ently and loiter over our advanced weapons and manufacturing in- dustry, monitor it using advanced means like the—— Senator GILLIBRAND. Yes. We are very interested in that data. Audience Member: The vehicles tend to be about 10 meters in size and the data that Dr. Kirkpatrick gave about the signatures of 1 to 3 gigahertz is the propulsion field interacting with the water in the atmosphere. The higher gigahertz range comes from the effects of the propul- sion field reducing the initial mass of the craft so they can do these outstanding maneuvers of [inaudible] degrees or rotating and flying off at hypersonic velocity. There is knowledge within the weapons industry. More people need to come forward. We need to pull up engineers out of Lock- heed Martin, Raytheon, and allow them the freedom to speak and stop the secrecy. Thank you for hearing me. Senator GILLIBRAND. My office can be a clearinghouse for this in- formation. Audience Member. Yes, Ms. Gillibrand. I have got video of it. Senator GILLIBRAND. If you want to submit to me the names and the people that you want, Dr. Kirkpatrick has contacts. I can do that, and any video that you want to give us, eventually we will have a platform so this can be done automatically. But I could [in- audible] and give it to Dr. Kirkpatrick. If you have it on a DVD—— Audience Member. I want to thank you. Senator GILLIBRAND.—to get it to him directly.
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