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The Mission, Activities, Oversight, and Budget of the All - Domain Anomaly Resolution Office

U.S. Senate · 2023-04-19 · 26 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. AARO Director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick testified on the office's mission, budget, data collection and review of the historical record. He said AARO had found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity or off-world technology. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, and one of them was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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Once I have those signatures identified in validated peer-re-
viewed documents, then I have something to point to for all that
data because all that data is going to match one of those signa-
tures, and then I can go, ‘‘well, it is that and not that or it is that,’’
and that helps us go through all that.
Where NASA comes in, and the study that they are doing, which
I am supporting, is really looking at the unclassified data sources
that might be used to augment our classified data sources to under-
stand if there is a signature there we can pull on. Very similar to
the radars but civil capability.
For example, we have a lot of climate science satellites, for exam-
ple, that look at Earth. Lots of them. How many of those is the
data valuable in seeing these kinds of objects? The challenge in
that is those platforms do not necessarily have the resolution you
need.
If you remember the slide I put up there with the trends, the size
of the objects we are looking for are typically reported to be 1 to
4 meters.
The resolution of many of the climate science civil satellites is
much larger than that, which means you would have a hard time
picking out something that is smaller than a pixel on the imagery
on the data.
That is not to say all of it is not useful, and there are ways of
pulling through that data and going through. That is what NASA
is focused on right now is what is—what are some other data
sources that could be used.
In addition, things like open source and crowd sourcing of data—
we are exploring public-private partnerships, ma’am, as you
know—we have talked about it in the past—to look at is there a
way to smartly crowd source additional data that might be useful
to augment some of my classified sources and what does that look
like and how would we do it so that we are not overwhelmed by
everybody who wants to take a picture of everything.
Senator GILLIBRAND. Thank you.
Is there anything else you would like to tell the Committee be-
fore we close, or do you have another round?
Senator ERNST. No.
Senator GILLIBRAND. Yes. Do you have anything else you would
like to tell the Committee before we close?
Dr. KIRKPATRICK. Thank you very much for allowing us to come
and share a little bit of insight into what AARO is up to and what
we are doing.
I hope to be able to share a whole lot more in the future. We
have a lot of work to do. If you do not hear from me outside it is
because we have got a lot of work to do.
Senator GILLIBRAND. Thank you so much, Dr. Kirkpatrick. Thank
you for the hearing.
Dr. KIRKPATRICK. Thank you.
Audience Member: Excuse me. I drove 600 miles to come here.
I presented a book to David Spergel, who I know is associated with
the gentleman here. I do not have flying saucers. We just saw the
first one. They had no explanation for it. I would like to provide
the evidence for it. It is on my video, as well as ancient evidence
of cave drawings that look identical to that disc.

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