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PA-AARO RoundTableTranscript 11-15-24 (FOIA 25-F-3931)

Office of the Secretary of Defense · 2024-11-15 · 40 pages · text from the file's own layer

This Office of the Secretary of Defense FOIA release (25-F-3931) holds Public Affairs emails from November 14 and 15, 2024, plus the transcript of a media roundtable with AARO Director Jon Kosloski on the FY24 Consolidated Annual Report on UAP. Kosloski said AARO had received over 1,600 reports and found no verifiable evidence of extraterrestrial beings, activity or technology. He said the Langley incidents were UAV activity. The release also includes a Hill article covering the report.

  • p. 9 …are those reports handled and investigated by the Pentagon overall and by AARO specifically? DR. KOSLOSKI…
  • p. 17 …briefing by Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh: opening remarks Separately, today, the department also delivered…
  • p. 19 …thx Just wanted to share the peice and say thanks for all the things. Kosloski seems…
  • p. 21 …FYSA: "Pentagon UFO office received more than 700 reports in past year" (The Hill) l(b…
  • p. 22 …FYSA: "Pentagon UFO office received more than 700 reports in past year" (The Hill) No, but…
  • p. 23 …FYSA: "Pentagon UFO office received more than 700 reports in past year" (The Hill) ,„„ 6. TI…
  • p. 24 The Pentagon's UFO office has received more than 700 reports, a newly declassified assessment reveals…
  • p. 25 …David Grusch, who was formerly part of the Pentagon's UAP task force and a former…
  • p. 26 …The Pentagon later said those UAP were unidentified drones. In the Thursday report, AARO identified 18…
  • p. 29 …FYSA: "Pentagon UFO o ice received more than 700 reports in past year" (The Hill) You…
  • p. 30 …FYSA: "Pentagon UFO office received more than 700 reports in past year" (The Hill) * * * Pentagon UFO…
  • p. 31 The Pentagon's UFO office has received more than 700 reports, a newly declassified assessment reveals…
  • p. 32 …David Grusch, who was formerly part of the Pentagon's UAP task force and a former…
  • p. 35 …FYSA: "Pentagon UFO office received more than 700 reports in past year" (The Hill) Signed By…
  • p. 36 …FYSA: "Pentagon UFO office received more than 700 reports in past year" (The Hill) There's…
  • p. 37 The Pentagon's UFO office has received more than 700 reports, a newly declassified assessment reveals…
  • p. 38 …David Grusch, who was formerly part of the Pentagon's UAP task force and a former…
  • p. 39 …The Pentagon later said those UAP were unidentified drones. In the Thursday report, AARO identified 18…
that -- the UAP cases that you can't resolve are not potentially breakthrough technologies? Or is
it that you just haven't been able to conclusively decide either way?
DR. KOSLOSKI: That's exactly right. So we don't fully understand the phenomenon enough to
say whether or not it's a breakthrough technology or not. So it's a very small percentage of our
overall cases that after the initial analysis still have the anomalous characteristics that one could
attribute breakthrough technologies to. It's less than 3.5% of our cases. And we're still studying
those with our IC and S&T partners, trying to understand what technologies could be used to
provide those characteristics.
But we don't understand them well enough to say whether it's a breakthrough technology, a
misunderstanding of the sensor performance or something else.
Q: And a skeptic might say that, you know, if you -- just because you can't explain it isn't a
reason to assume that it's not a breakthrough technology or I mean by the definition of
breakthrough technology would be something that you don't have -- if you don't have it, you
can't explain, right?
DR. KOSLOSKI: Agree 100%. So, we're not ruling it out. We're open to that as an explanation for
it. But we're just not attributing breakthrough technology as the explanation to it. We're -- an
open mind works both ways. So if we don't understand what it is, we can't say that it is or is not
a breakthrough technology. So we're just trying to keep an open mind.
Q: Got it. It's not a catch 22.
DR. KOSLOSKI: Right.
Q: (inaudible) OK.
DR. KOSLOSKI: Yes. It -- we accept that the explanation could be a misunderstanding of ours in
interpreting the data or it could be a breakthrough technology. Until we understand, we don't
know.
Q: Thank you. Brad Dress, for The Hill. Have you found anything that might be a breakthrough
technology? I know you're saying you don't know if there are breakthroughs yet, but something
that might be a breakthrough technology near the military sites, some of those sightings you've
seen near the military sites, have you found anything that might be that? Or are they all just
been drones and UAS?
DR. KOSLOSKI: It's definitely not all just drones and UAS. So we have several particularly
interesting cases. We're working on within the office, working with our partners to downgrade
several of those cases, so we can talk about them publicly. But there are interesting cases that I,
with my physics and engineering background and time in the IC, I do not understand. And I
don't know anybody else who understands them either.

Cases discussed

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