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This Office of the Secretary of Defense FOIA release (24-F-0250) centers on a January 8, 2024 AARO memorandum for record. The memo describes the office's repeated attempts through 2023 to interview David Grusch for its Historical Record Report. It concludes that Grusch had no intention of giving AARO information about his claims. The release also includes text messages with Chris Mellon and congressional staff, email exchanges with Grusch, and DoD SAPCO and ODNI CAPCO memos stating that AARO may receive classified and NDA-protected UAP information.
INTEL & SEC USA u ject: : •ave rusc All-I did speak with the DoDIG. They went on my behalf to the ICIG to request the classified transcript. Why? Because Grusch gave NOTHING to the DoDIG and claimed the same thing he told you - that it was IC compartmented information and they couldn't have it. The ICIG declined to acquiesce to my request. I am fairly confident I know what compartments he is referring to, because I did my job, but I cannot confirm 100% if he doesn't come see me. As DK points out, the SSCI could give me the transcript. Sean From: Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:41:46 PM To: "Kozik, David A SES OS "Kirkpatrick, Sean M HOE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC USA" Cc: Subject: RE: Dave Grusch Really helpful, Dave, thanks. Did not know that executive branch folks are in the same boat we are. Will urge Grusch to come through Sean's portal. From: Kozik, David A SES OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA) Sent: Wednesda June 7 2023 5:36 PM To: Kirkpatrick, Sean M HOE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA) u ject: : l ave rusc Weighing in— there's no way in heck that DoD and IC IG will give any third party raw information, ever. IG investigations are a black box for a reason. The best Sean will get from them is a filtered report that the IG releases to everyone. Bottom line: best COA is still for Mr. Grusch to speak to AARO per their confidential process (the one Congress directed in law). If he doesn't, I fear the best assessment you will ever get from AARO is a reflection of a reflection. FYI, Sean won't have an access problem, ie he has no SAP/CAP restrictions— it's just the IG divide. Of course, if he did speak to the intel committees, they could always provide their transcripts/notes to Sean for his review. My two cents. VR 3
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FOIA release, from the osd collection. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is above. 26 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.