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Final Product (FOIA 24-F-0250)

Office of the Secretary of Defense · 2024 · 26 pages · text from the file's own layer

This Office of the Secretary of Defense FOIA release (24-F-0250) centers on a January 8, 2024 AARO memorandum for record. The memo describes the office's repeated attempts through 2023 to interview David Grusch for its Historical Record Report. It concludes that Grusch had no intention of giving AARO information about his claims. The release also includes text messages with Chris Mellon and congressional staff, email exchanges with Grusch, and DoD SAPCO and ODNI CAPCO memos stating that AARO may receive classified and NDA-protected UAP information.

Kozik David A SES OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC USA
Subject: RE: Dave Grusch
He cannot tell SASC staff ANYTHING once he entered the IG process. We are forbidden from even asking. Furthermore,
if a waived SAP is involved, he cannot talk to SASC staff about it because we are not accessed.
From:
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2023 7:50 AM
To: Kirk atrick Sean M HOE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC USA
Kozik, David A SES OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA)
Subject: RE: Dave Grusch
Tracking thanks Sean!
From: Kirkpatrick, Sean M HOE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA)
Sent: Wed nesda June 7 2023 6:53 PM
To: Kozik, David A SES OSD OUSD
INTEL & SEC USA
Subject: Re: Dave Grusch
Let me expand a bit.
I know everything he was briefed to and had access to, and have far greater access. So he did not have access to some
DoD SAP that the IC didn't have (and if he did, he could've told you). Similarly, he didn't have access to some IC CAP that
couldn't be shared. If he "found" some program, he wouldn't know who's it was unless he had super user access or
someone who did helped him look it up. He didn't. Therefore, he can't make the argument that whatever he "found"
couldn't be shared. If he or others thought it was an illegal program, then again, he can't make the argument that it
couldn't be shared with either the DoD or the IC committees based on his assertion they didn't have clearances. It
sounds very much like playing the two halves against the middle to hide something.
From: '
Date: Wednesday, June /, ZU2.3 at 5.56.19 PM
To: "Kirkpatrick, Sean M HOE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA)" 'Kozik, David A SES
OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC USA
Subject: RE: Dave Grusch
Sean — press reports indicate that he said he could not provide everything he knows to the INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES
because they were not cleared, so I concluded that he had access to some DOD SAP that the Intel Committee are not
accessed to — and inferred that the IC IG would not have access either.
From: Kirkpatrick, Sean M HOE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 5:50 PM
To Kozik, David A SES OSD OUSD
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