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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Witnesses Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified under oath. Members pressed for transparency, and Graves described a near midair encounter with a cube inside a clear sphere.

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UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
IMPLICATIONS ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
PUBLIC SAFETY, AND GOVERNMENT
TRANSPARENCY
Wednesday, July 26, 2023
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
Washington, D.C.
The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:06 a.m., in
room 2154, Rayburn Office Building, Hon. Glenn Grothman,
[Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding.
Present: Representatives Grothman, Gosar, Foxx, Sessions,
Biggs, Mace, LaTurner, Armstrong, Perry, Garcia, Moskowitz, and
Frost.
Also present: Representatives Luna, Burlison, Gaetz, Burchett,
Comer, Ogles, Langworthy, Raskin, and Ocasio-Cortez.
Mr. GROTHMAN. The Subcommittee on unidentified anomalous
phenomena, or UAPs, will come to order.
Welcome, everyone. Without objection, the Chair may declare a
recess at any time. Additionally, without objection, the following
Members are waived on to the Subcommittee for the purpose of
participating in today’s hearing: Mr. Burchett of Tennessee, Ms.
Luna of Florida, Mr. Gaetz of Florida, Mr. Burlison of Missouri,
Ms. Ocasio-Cortez of New York, and Mr. Ogles of Tennessee. With-
out objection so ordered.
For today’s Subcommittee hearing both the Chair and Ranking
Member will have 10 minutes for opening remarks. We may both
be giving some of those minutes to other Members of our party.
I am now going to recognize myself for 10 minutes. I am actually
going to try to get out of here in about four and then we will give
it to some of my friends over here.
Good morning, and welcome to the most exciting Subcommittee
in Congress this week, the Subcommittee on National Security, the
Border, and Foreign Affairs for discussion of unidentified anoma-
lous phenomenon.
I would like to thank the brave military panelists and personnel,
such as the witnesses on the panel today, for sharing their stories
on how they have engaged UAPs, which has brought attention to
this matter.

Cases discussed

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