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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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1 The scientific community, technical community, is going
2 to look at it through the lens of what is the data telling
3 me, what is the sensor doing, what would I expect a sensor
4 response to be, and back that out.
5 Those two groups give us their answers. We then
6 adjudicate. If they agree then I am more likely to close
7 that case if they agree on what it is. If they disagree we
8 will have an adjudication. We will bring them together. We
9 will take a look at the differences. We will adjudicate why
10 do you say one thing and you say another.
11 We will then come to a case -- a recommendation. That
12 will get written up by my team. That then goes to a senior
13 technical advisory group, which is outside of all of those
14 people made up of senior technical folks and intel analysts
15 and operators from retired, out of the community, and they
16 essentially peer review what that case recommendation is.
17 They write their recommendations. That comes back to
18 me. I review it, we make a determination, and I will sign
19 off one way or the other and then that will go out as the
20 case determination.
21 Once we have an approved web portal to hang the
22 unclassified stuff we will -- we would downgrade and
23 declassify things and put it out there.
24 In the meantime, we are putting a lot of these on our
25 classified web portal where we can then collaborate with the
Page determined to be Unclassified
Reviewed by Chief of Staff, AARO
IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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