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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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1 Are they attached to a national security area? Does it show
2 some anomalous phenomenology that is of interest? If it is
3 just -- if it is just a spherical thing that is floating
4 around with the -- with the wind and it has no payload on it
5 that is going to be less important than something that has a
6 payload on it, which will be less important than something
7 that is maneuvering.
8 So there is sort of a hierarchy of just binning the
9 priorities because we cannot do all of them at once. Once
10 we do that and we prioritize them we take that package of
11 data in that case, and I have set up two teams. Think of
12 this as a red team, blue team, or competitive analysis.
13 I have an intelligence community team made up of
14 intelligence analysts and I have an S&T team made up of
15 scientists and engineers and the people that actually build
16 a lot of these sensors or physicists because if you are a
17 physicist you can do anything and -- but they are not
18 associated with the intel community. They are not intel
19 officers. They look at this through the lens of the sensor
20 of what the data says.
21 We give that package to both teams. The intelligence
22 community is going to look at it through the lens of the
23 intelligence record and what they assess and their intel
24 tradecraft, which they have very specific rules and
25 regulations on how they do that. Page determined to be Unclassified
Reviewed by Chief of Staff, AARO
IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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