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ico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Pro
ject Grudge I saw photographs of these dead alien's, of the craft;
I saw photographs of live aliens; I saw photographs of 'autopsies,
internal organs; I saw photographs of the alien designated 'E.B.'
[or Ebe] , which was held in' captivity from 1949 until June 2,
1952, when he died. I saw the history of what they had been able
to at that time put together, from incidents in the 1800s, wQich
involved aliens and their craft. '
"I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was, to
fly recovered alien craft that had been recovered intact and un
damaged, and some of them were recovered and undamaged,
and how that\happened I have no idea. It was called 'Project
Redlight," and first was conducted from the Tonopah test'range in
the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a speci~lly built
area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called 'Area-51,'
code named 'Dreamland,' in the Groom , [sp] dry lake area of the
Nevada test sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist
officially, if you ask anyone, or if you write letters to the
government they will tell you it doesn't exist. However if you
go out there at several places and see it, fly outside the bound
aries and look down and see it, you know it's there, but accord
ing to the government it doesn't exist.
"The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until
sometime in 1962 when a craft blew up not far from the test
sight, in the air, and the explosion was seen over a three-state
area. The pilots were killed, they had no idea what had happened
or why the craft blew up, but they put'projectRedlight on hold
until a later date when the aliens supplied us with three craft
and personnel to help us learn how to fly these craft. That pro
ject is ongoing, and we now have not only alien craft that we are
flying, we have craft we have built, using the captured technol
ogy, and ,some of the UFOs that report seeing in the United
states,' and maybe even elsewhere, are flown by United States per
sonnel. '
"That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way
beyond the limits of what we have been told. A lot of our devel
opment technologically, since the end of World War II, has been
due to the exchange of technology which occurs in the area called
'Area 51' on a regular basis ... ongoing.
"When James Oberth, Professor Oberth retired, many of you
don't know who he is ... not too many space people in here. Pro
fessor Oberth was probably one of the g~eatest rocket scientists
and space commentators that 'ever lived. When he retired, the
government gave him a special award, there was a press confer
ence, all kinds of ceremony, and when· he got up to speak he said,
'Gentlemen,' and I Professor Oberth, he said, 'Gentlemen,
we cannot take credit for all the technological developments that
we have had in the last decade. We have had help, , and that's
where he stopped.
"One of the reporters raised his hand and said, 'Professor
Oberth, can you tell us what other country helped us?'
"He said, 'It was those little guys from out In space,' and
then he got down and would not comment any further. ,Now this oc
curred in 1959. I can go on and on, but time doesn't allow it.
"I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are- all
kinds of things going on all the time, we are making rapid
progress in exposing this. Since I have begun talking, people
have been coming out of the woodwork' at a rapid rate, who know
and have pieces of this puzzle, and are helping us to put it to
gether, because I don't have all the answers. I saw an awful lot
of material, I have remembered an awful lot of it, I have proba
bly, in my remembering, made some mistakes, and I guarantee you
they're minor ones, if I have.
"We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe
that the Jason' Society of the Jason Scholars, the secret group,
existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51 names of
the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold
the highest security'clearances in the nation, an admission 'from
the Pentagon that they hold the protocol rank of Rear Admiral,
and are treated as such on any military installation or in any
government office. There are six Nobel Prize winners on that
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