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which, the rules a,re the same.
II NO'. I, you need a securi ty clearance, and you I ve got to·
have clearance at the level that the information you want to,see "t'
is cla:;;sif-i,ed at., In this instance it was classified 'Top Se
cret" Magic, Restricted Information,' which I c~me to find ,out
later is the highest security classification in, the Nation. To'
'get that type of clear'ance, all you have to have is a Federal Bu
reau of Investigation background check,which takes about six
months"and they send federal agents to your home; to your old
schools, to all, your teachers, to your friends, to everybody you
put down on your security clearance forms, to all your old ad
'dresses, your neighbors, everybody, that you've worked for, :and
it's embarrassing because they don't tell them what they're
checking on. They just show them their identification and start
asking questions and that's when you find out who"s your friend
and who's not, because a lot of people get scared and think,
'Bill just "robbed a bank and I'm not talking to him anymore. '
"Now once you get that it's called a 'B.I." and for those of
you who have received a copy of my service record look on the
first page, the DD-214 where it says 'Security Clearance,' you
will see the term 'B.I.' That"s a 'Bureau' of Investigation'
clearance. Now at that point, ,you have the clearance 'for every
thing including TOp Secret and above. What determines what you
get to see is your, need to know, and,. the job that you have det'er~
mines what your need to know is.
"I was assigned to the intelligence Briefing Te~m of the
Commander in Chief of ,the United States Pacific Fleet, ~ho had to
know everything concerning his 'area of operations "which' was i one
half of the Earth's surface; the Indian ocean, th~ Pacific oc~an;
and all the land masses in betwe~n. Believe it or not, if we go
to war, if we 'ever go to war, it's the United States Navy that
strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the enemy at,bay
while we can get ourselves together, at least historically, 'Nu
'clear weapons have kind of done away with that concept, but mili
tary commanders 1 ike to ,talk about it anyway.
"Because of this, and yo~ have no conception of the amovnt
of material and information that an area commander has to know;
it's unbelievable, and he : has to keep track of this, he has to
keep on top of it. He has to know what's happening; he has to
make the right decisions. Because it's,almost humanly impossible
for anyone to do that, they have what's called a briefing team,
and it's our job to' make sure, that he has the correct informa'
tion, all the time, on a 24-hour basis. And every morning, be
tween 8 and 9 a.m., we would give a briefing which covered every
thing that happened in the previous 24 hours, and everything
scheduled to happen in the next 24 hours, and all the pertinent
intelligence reports that we had received since the last briefing
that he needed to, know and that his staff members needed to know.
Occasi'onally we would, get messages marked 'Top Secret" Magic, Re
stricted Information,' and it ~ould be coded in such'a way that
all you had were answers to questions which, you didn't know what
the questions were so you really didn't know,what the message was
all about.
"But eventually I found myself in possession, hol,ding two
documents; one called 'Proje~t Grudge,' another one called
'Operation Majority.' Project Grudge cqntained the history of
alien involvement since' around , 1936,' and it began talking about
Germany's involvement with a crashed disk that they had recov~red'
in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the technology.: They
were not successful despite what all, these Nazi hunters want to
tell you. If they had been s~ccessful, we would not have won the
war, because ,you cannot beat those weapons! You cannot out fly
those craft, you, can't. even think about it with conventional air
craft. If Germany had been successful, we would now have a Ger
man flag up in front of this'podium.
"They did make some headway. When we went into puntCl; Mundy
[sp] we captured documents, we got some scientists" we got some
hardware. The Russians also g'ot some documents, some scientists,'
and some hardware. It wasn't until 1947 that we wer'e,able to
capture a craft, q whole craft; not all together but it was ev
erything. And that occurred near the city of Roswell, New Mex-
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