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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

  • p. 10 …we must do so with the mindset of protecting our country, advancing scientific discovery, and up-
  • p. 11 …from the testimony and come out of this hearing with actionable ideas to advance UAP transparency…
  • p. 12 8 In March, AARO revealed a report on the historical record of U.S. Government involvement…
  • p. 16 12 of the Committee. It is my honor and privilege to testify before you on the…
  • p. 22 …The term that the analyst used, they call it the button. It was a disc-shaped…
  • p. 24 …I flagged the Advanced Airspace Weapon Systems Ap- plications Program to our Chair and our DFO…
  • p. 39 …Yes, I believe the UAP Disclosure Act is important for national security; as well as advancing…
  • p. 40 …You were asked about the veracity of the author of this report. Are you comfortable with…
  • p. 47 …may be connected to any advanced bioscience defense programs within the USG? Dr. GALLAUDET. I do…
  • p. 51 …Congressman, I absolutely am con- vinced of that, as are my colleagues inside the government. Mr…
  • p. 52 …are not as advanced as us, that they lack some of the lethality that we have…
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UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
EXPOSING THE TRUTH
Wednesday, November 13, 2024
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY,
AND GOVERNMENT INNOVATION
JOINTLY, WITH THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN
AFFAIRS
Washington, D.C.
The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:37 a.m., in
room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Nancy Mace
[Chairwoman of the Subcommittee] presiding.
Present: Representatives Mace, Grothman, Timmons, Burchett,
Higgins, Luna, Biggs, Burlison, Perry, Garcia, Lynch, Moskowitz,
Porter, and Frost.
Also present: Representatives Boebert and Ogles.
Ms. MACE. Good morning. This joint hearing of the Sub-
committee on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Govern-
ment Innovation, and the Subcommittee on National Security, the
Border, and Foreign Affairs will come to order.
Good morning and welcome everyone.
Without objection, the Chair may declare a recess at any time,
and I recognize myself for the purpose of making an opening state-
ment right now.
Good morning and welcome to today’s historic hearing, which I
am co-chairing with Mr. Grothman whose subcommittee held an
important hearing on this topic last year.
I want to thank my colleagues and the Oversight Committee, in-
cluding Mr. Burchett, Mr. Burlison, Mrs. Luna, Mr. Moskowitz, Mr.
Garcia, for their relentless drive to get answers on UAPs. They
have been steadfast in demanding transparency on the sightings
reported by military pilots and armed forces. Their commitment to
digging for the truth is exactly what this country needs to cut
through the secrecy surrounding this issue.
And many high-ranking individuals in the military and intel-
ligence communities believe UAPs demand greater attention, and
thus the purpose for this hearing today.

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Hearing transcript, from the hearings collection. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is above. 52 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.