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This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.
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(1) UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA: EXPOSING THE TRUTH Wednesday, November 13, 2024 U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, AND GOVERNMENT INNOVATION JOINTLY, WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS Washington, D.C. The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:37 a.m., in room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Nancy Mace [Chairwoman of the Subcommittee] presiding. Present: Representatives Mace, Grothman, Timmons, Burchett, Higgins, Luna, Biggs, Burlison, Perry, Garcia, Lynch, Moskowitz, Porter, and Frost. Also present: Representatives Boebert and Ogles. Ms. MACE. Good morning. This joint hearing of the Sub- committee on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Govern- ment Innovation, and the Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs will come to order. Good morning and welcome everyone. Without objection, the Chair may declare a recess at any time, and I recognize myself for the purpose of making an opening state- ment right now. Good morning and welcome to today’s historic hearing, which I am co-chairing with Mr. Grothman whose subcommittee held an important hearing on this topic last year. I want to thank my colleagues and the Oversight Committee, in- cluding Mr. Burchett, Mr. Burlison, Mrs. Luna, Mr. Moskowitz, Mr. Garcia, for their relentless drive to get answers on UAPs. They have been steadfast in demanding transparency on the sightings reported by military pilots and armed forces. Their commitment to digging for the truth is exactly what this country needs to cut through the secrecy surrounding this issue. And many high-ranking individuals in the military and intel- ligence communities believe UAPs demand greater attention, and thus the purpose for this hearing today.
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