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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

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  • p. 4 …Burchett. * Report, Pentagon, ‘‘Immaculate Constellation’’; submitted by Rep. Mace. * Questions for the Record: to Mr. Elizondo…
  • p. 6 …Part of the transparency effort was legislation created in the Pentagon, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution…
  • p. 7 …But this is going to be the original document from the Pentagon about Immaculate Constellation that…
  • p. 16 …Currently, the White House, CIA, NASA, the Pentagon, Depart-
  • p. 18 …Government offi- cials who have told Congress that AARO and the Pentagon have broken the law…
  • p. 19 …Two of the three potential explanations are blacked out. The Pentagon, the intelligence community is treating…
  • p. 25 …And then, in 2009 timeframe, when I came back to the Pentagon after a tour with…
  • p. 42 …Pentagon, by the Department of Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review. And it states that…
  • p. 43 …bit when I was at the Pentagon. The problem is, the supposed collection of these biologi…
  • p. 44 …What I can say was, after a very thorough review process by the Pentagon, what I…
  • p. 46 …Are y’all aware of any task force at the Pentagon or in the national security…
  • p. 47 …And do you believe that there is a concerted effort by the Pentagon to keep Congress…
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C O N T E N T S
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Hearing held on November 13, 2024 ...................................................................... 1
WITNESSES
Dr. Tim Gallaudet, Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (RET.), Chief Executive Officer,
Ocean STL Consulting, LLC
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 9
Mr. Luis Elizondo, Author, and Former Department of Defense Official
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 11
Mr. Michael Shellenberger, Founder of Public
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 13
Mr. Michael Gold, Former NASA Associate Administrator of Space Policy
and Partnerships, Member of NASA UAP Independent Study Team
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 16
Opening statements and the prepared statements for the witnesses are avail-
able in the U.S. House of Representatives Repository at: docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Mellon Hearing Letter; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Documents related to UAPs; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Report, Pentagon, ‘‘Immaculate Constellation’’; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Elizondo; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Dr. Gallaudet; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Shellenberger; submitted by Rep.
Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Gold; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
The documents listed above are available at: docs.house.gov.

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