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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

  • p. 10 …threats, as well as more effective interagency cooperation and intelligence sharing. However, none of this is…
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paign, to include personal attacks designed to discredit UAP whis-
tleblowers.
Having never signed a nondisclosure agreement regarding UAPs
and now, as a private citizen, I have become an advocate for great-
er UAP transparency from the government. The continued over-
classification surrounding UAPs has not only hindered our ability
to effectively address these phenomena but has also eroded trust
in our institutions.
While I applaud previous bipartisan legislation passed by Con-
gress concerning UAPs, a more comprehensive approach is needed
to address the broader implication of UAP on public safety and na-
tional security, as well as the socioeconomic opportunities that
open UAP research could unlock.
Therefore, I recommend Congress take the following action,
which I believe will receive bipartisan support: First, establish ro-
bust oversight of the executive branch’s management of UAP infor-
mation by directing key officials, beginning with the Director of the
DoD’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, to provide com-
prehensive briefings on what the government knows about UAP
and does not know.
Two, enact the provisions of the UAP Disclosure Act to establish
a UAP records review board to ensure independent oversight,
transparency, and accountability in the government’s handling of
UAP information.
And, three, strengthen the UAP Disclosure Act and future reau-
thorizations with provisions that mandate a whole-of-government
approach to addressing UAP.
In closing, I will share my personal reasons for speaking out on
this topic. First, as a former science agency leader, having led the
National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, I have always
sought the truth in human knowledge and thought.
Now that we know UAP are interacting with humanity, and
these include unidentified submerged objects in the ocean, we
should not turn a blind eye but, instead, boldly face this new re-
ality and learn from it.
Additionally, at a time when leaders in government leave much
to be desired, I feel obligated to share moral leadership on this
issue of UAP disclosure by validating the credibility of the coura-
geous men and women who have come out as witnesses and whis-
tleblowers to expose the truth.
My speaking out has encouraged others to do the same, and it
is my hope over time that a number of your constituents will want
to know the truth about UAP, and this number will increase to
such an extent that the congressional action I just recommended
will become inevitable.
Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
Ms. MACE. Thank you.
I will now recognize Mr. Elizondo for his opening statement.
STATEMENT OF LUIS ELIZONDO
AUTHOR
FORMER DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE OFFICIAL
Mr. ELIZONDO. Greetings, Chairwoman Mace, Chairman
Grothman, Ranking Members Connolly and Garcia, and Members

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