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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

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  • p. 6 …It is never easy to present such information publicly. So, I appre- ciate our witnesses voluntarily…
  • p. 14 …Moreover, the Commander of Fleet Forces Command and the operations officer never discussed the subject even…
  • p. 15 …Having never signed a nondisclosure agreement regarding UAPs and now, as a private citizen, I have…
  • p. 17 …In closing, we, as Americans, have never been afraid of a chal- lenge. In fact, we…
  • p. 20 …I have never seen anyone wearing an Office of Personnel Management T- shirt, which is why…
  • p. 21 …the chance to garner new knowledge, should never be ignored. We must be thorough in collecting…
  • p. 29 …I would never, ever try to endorse providing some sort of information that could compromise what…
  • p. 30 …Why do you think the Commander of Fleet Forces operations officer never discussed the incident again…
  • p. 32 …And let me just state for the record, I never read the report that—or the…
  • p. 35 …We could never do good science with that. And let me tell you, the NASA budget…
  • p. 39 …Commander of Fleet Forces and his operations officer never discussed the incident again. Is that accurate?
  • p. 40 …And even during weekly meetings, it was never dis- cussed again. My question for you is…
  • p. 42 …order to make that complete, and that never occurred. And so, when Secretary Mattis became Secretary…
  • p. 46 …The Earth is flat, birds are government drones, and we have never set foot on the…
  • p. 49 …The first hearing we had on this, I had never been briefed on UAPs or what…
U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE
WASHINGTON :57–440 PDF 2025
UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
EXPOSING THE TRUTH
JOINT HEARING
BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY, INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY, AND GOVERNMENT INNOVATION
AND THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
NOVEMBER 13, 2024
Serial No. 118–135
Printed for the use of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability
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