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desert in New Mexico. The Russians allegedly wanted to start an alien-invasion public panic but
picked an odd place to do it. The alien-looking bodies were said to be concentration camp survivors
who had been surgically altered by the infamous Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele to look like beings from outer
space.
Take your pick. Al had a reason for changing the story. Someone told him to do it.
A more current source regarding unknown technology is Dr. James Lacatski. Dr. Lacatski is a brilliant
man who spent the bulk of his career working for the Defense Intelligence Agency. He and a DIA
colleague came up with the idea for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program
(AAWSAP). AAWSAP is the acronym for the program mentioned earlier in this presentation. It is the
largest UFO investigation ever funded by the U.S. government (that we know of). Senator Harry Reid
and two other senior senators secured the funding for the program. It was highly compartmentalized,
even by the standards of DIA.
Dr. Lacatski is a by-the-book guy. He does not spill secrets unless the information is approved through
the DOPSR process and so long as it does not endanger national security. As a matter of disclosure, I
am a co-author of two books written primarily by Dr. Lacatski and Dr. Colm Kelleher, the principal
manager of AAWSAP in Las Vegas. Kelleher worked for Robert Bigelow, a successful developer and
aerospace contractor in Nevada. His company, BAASS, was awarded the DIA contract for AAWSAP.
In an amazingly short turnaround, BAASS managed to recruit and hire fifty full-time investigators for
BAASS, most of them former military or law enforcement, and all of whom were able to qualify for
top-secret security clearances.
As I mentioned in a statement submitted to Congress during the 2023 hearing into this subject,
BAASS/AAWSAP generated an enormous amount of research and content in its 27-month existence.
In addition to more than three dozen preliminary reports (DIRDs), the program compiled the largest
known UFO database—or rather data warehouse—consisting of more than 240,000 case files obtained
from multiple other collections, including files from other governments. The data warehouse was
designed and overseen by Dr. Jacques Vallee and has reportedly been used by U.S. agencies up to the
present date. BAASS/AAWSAP also produced more than 100 highly detailed papers focusing on
different issues and questions, including studies of the health effects on humans from encounters with
UFO/UAP technology. None of these 100-plus reports have been released by DIA, though a few have
been leaked.
In 2023, the usually tight-lipped Dr. Lacatski dropped a bombshell. He revealed that he had been in
high-level talks with the Department of Homeland Security to create a new program, dubbed Kona
Blue. During the discussions with a U.S. senator and an undersecretary of DHS, Lacatski revealed that
“the U.S. is in possession of a craft of unknown origin and had successfully gained access to its
interior.” The craft has “a streamlined configuration suitable for aerodynamic flight but no intakes,
exhaust, wings, or control surfaces. In fact, it appeared not to have an engine, fuel tanks, or fuel. What
was the purpose of this craft?”
Lacatski flat out stated to a senior government official and a sitting senator that our government does
have (at least) one UFO, though he did not say where it is or how it was acquired, and in multiple
conversations since 2023, he has declined to say anything more.
The BAASS/AAWSAP effort was a success on every level, producing an inordinate amount of data
and analysis, but when its existence was leaked, which stunned other power centers in the national