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David Fravor statement

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This undated statement was prepared for the House Oversight Committee by retired U.S. Navy Commander David Fravor. He recounts his November 2004 encounter near the USS Nimitz with a white Tic Tac shaped object that showed no wings, rotors or infrared plume. He says the object outperformed his F/A-18F and reappeared on the Princeton's radar 60 miles away in under a minute. He says the incident was never investigated and urges congressional oversight of any government programs involving such craft.

degrees when we made a nose low move to head to where the Tic Tac would be when we
pulled nose onto the object. Our altitude at this point was approximately 15,000ft with the Tic
Tac at about 12,000ft. As we pulled nose onto the object at approximately ½ of a mile with the
object just left of our nose, it rapidly accelerated and disappeared right in front of our aircraft.
Our wingman, roughly 8,000ft above us, also lost visual. We immediately turned to investigate
the white water only to find that it was also gone. As we turned back towards our CAP point,
roughly 60 miles east, the air controller let us know that the object had reappeared on the
Princeton’s Aegis SPY 1 radar at our CAP point. This Tic Tac Object had just traveled 60 miles in
a very short period of time (less than a minute), was far superior in performance to my brand-
new F/A-18F and did not operate with any of the known aerodynamic principles that we expect
for objects that fly in our atmosphere.
We returned to Nimitz and mentioned what we had witnessed to one of my crews who were
getting ready to launch. It was that crew that took the now famous approximately 90 second
video that was released by the USG in 2017. What is not seen is the Radar tape that showed
the jamming of the APG-73 radar in the aircraft, but we do see on the targeting pod video that
the object does not emit any IR (infrared) plume from a normal propulsion system that we
would expect.
What is shocking is that the incident was never investigated, none of my crew were ever
questioned, tapes were never taken, and after a couple of days, it turned into a great story to
tell friends. Not until 2009 did Jay Stratton contact me to investigate what we observed.
Unbeknownst to all of us, Jay was part of the ATIP (Anomalous Threat Identification Program)
program led by Lue Elizondo out of the DOD. I refer to the report as the Unofficial Official
Report which is now available on the internet!
Years later I was contacted by Alex Dietrich, the other pilot in my flight asking if I had ever been
contacted about the incident after 2009. I had since retired and my answer was no, but I told
her if folks wanted to talk, I was happy to meet with them. Alex stated that she had been
invited to the Pentagon multiple times to discuss the event and view other videos of UAPs.
I was contacted by Mr Elizondo shortly after talking with Alex in 2016. We briefly chatted and I
was told that he would be in contact.
In the weeks that passed I was made aware that Lue had left the pentagon in protest and joined
forces with Tom Delonge, Chris Mellon, Steve Justice and others to form To The Stars Academy.
It was this organization that pressed the issue with leading Industry experts and USG officials,
worked with Leslie Keane, Ralph Blumenthal and Helene Cooper to publish the articles in the
NYT in Dec 2017 admitting the USG was looking at UAPs and removed the Stigma of the UFO
topic which led to us being here today.
Those articles opened a door for the Government and the public that cannot be closed. It has
led to an Interest from our elected officials who are not focused on “Little Green men” but on
figuring out what these craft are, where are they from, the technology they possess, and how

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