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Baker report, 1968 congressional hearings

NICAP · 1968 · 68 pages · text from the file's own layer

This NICAP extract reproduces the statement of Dr. Robert M. L. Baker, Jr., a Computer Sciences Corporation scientist and UCLA engineering faculty member, to the House Committee on Science and Astronautics symposium on unidentified flying objects on July 29, 1968. Baker reviews his analyses of the Utah, Montana, Venezuela and Vandenberg films. He argues that current radar and optical sensors are poorly suited to detecting anomalistic phenomena and urges a well-funded, long-term interdisciplinary research program. The extract ends with panel discussion including Hynek and Hall.

  • p. 2 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Phi Beta…
  • p. 8 …space) are the results of an advanced extraterrestrial civilization, then the study of the phenomena would…
  • p. 9 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 10 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 11 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probably not Government funded) should include the…
  • p. 19 Microphotograph of One of the Frames of the Argentina Film that Exhibits the Luminosity of the…
  • p. 21 …and Journal of the American Astronautical Society, 6, No. 1, 1959. 146 00015 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 22 …the Seventh Annual ARDC Science and Engineering Symposium, Boston, Massachusetts, November 30, 1960. 00042 "1960 Advances…
  • p. 23 …Makemson) 00071 Aerodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 37 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 39 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 55 …sure, advanced radar systems are being developed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 56 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 9, 10 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 57 …Coroniti (Elsevier Publishing Company, New York, 1963), page 463. 184 The Journal of the Astronautical Sciences…
Committee), British Astronomical Society (Fellow), American Astronomical Society, American Physical Society, and
Meteoritical Society.
His active security clearance is top secret.
STATEMENT OF DR. ROBERT M. L. BAKER, JR., SENIOR SCIENTIST, COMPUTER SCIENCES CORP., El
SEGUNDO, CALIF., AND FACULTY, DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING, UCLA
Dr. Baker. Fine, thank you, Mr. Roush.
I should like to preface my remarks by stating my preference for the term "anomalistic observational phenomena," as
opposed to the term "unidentified flying objects."
Mr. Roush. I observed you were going to say that and I wonder about some of my Hoosiers back home using those terms.
Dr. Baker. It comes trippingly off the tongue.
Mr. Roush. It might not only cause some Hoosiers but some laymen some problems. It might be easier to say UFO's. You
may go ahead.
Dr. Baker. I call it AOP.
From the data that I have reviewed and analyzed since 1954, it is my belief that there does exist substantial evidence to
support the claim that an unexplained phenomenon -- or phenomena -- is present in the environs of the earth, but that it
may not be "flying," may not always be "unidentified," and, perhaps, may not even be substantive "objects." In the
following statement I will --
(1) Present a summary of the analyses that I have accomplished to date -- those that have led me to believe that anomalistic
phenomena exist;
(2) Explain the probable inadequacy of our current terrestrial sensors in observing and/or defining the characteristics of the
anomalistic phenomena;
(3) Suggest a number of tentative hypothetical sources for the phenomena, and the justification for their scientific study;
(4) And, finally, I will make specific recommendations concerning the necessity for new types of closely related
observational and study programs which might be implemented in a fashion that would permit the detection and
quantitative analysis of the anomalistic phenomena.
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Several appendices accompany this report. The first two are in response to Congressman Roush's invitational letter of July
10, 1968, and consist of my biographical sketch and a listing of my bibliography, respectively. The third appendix relates
directly to my specific recommendations, and was included with the kind permission of Dr. Sydney Walker III. The fourth
appendix presents three reprints of articles (Baker (1968a) and (1968b) and Walker (1968)) that are pertinent to the subject
matter of this report.
PART 1. ANALYSES OF ANOMALISTIC OBSERVATIONAL PHENOMENA
UTAH AND MONTANA FILMS
My initial contact with anomalistic observational phenomena -- AOP -- came in 1954 when I was a consultant to Douglas
Aircraft Co. in Santa Monica, Calif., serving as special assistant to Dr. W. B. Klemperer, director of Douglas' research
staff. The data consisted of two short film clips: one taken in Montana -- termed by us as the Montana film -- and one taken
in Utah -- called by us the Utah film. These films were provided to us by the Air Technical Intelligence Center -- ATIC,

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