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Baker report, 1968 congressional hearings

NICAP · 1968 · 68 pages · text from the file's own layer

This NICAP extract reproduces the statement of Dr. Robert M. L. Baker, Jr., a Computer Sciences Corporation scientist and UCLA engineering faculty member, to the House Committee on Science and Astronautics symposium on unidentified flying objects on July 29, 1968. Baker reviews his analyses of the Utah, Montana, Venezuela and Vandenberg films. He argues that current radar and optical sensors are poorly suited to detecting anomalistic phenomena and urges a well-funded, long-term interdisciplinary research program. The extract ends with panel discussion including Hynek and Hall.

  • p. 2 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Phi Beta…
  • p. 8 …space) are the results of an advanced extraterrestrial civilization, then the study of the phenomena would…
  • p. 9 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 10 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 11 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probably not Government funded) should include the…
  • p. 19 Microphotograph of One of the Frames of the Argentina Film that Exhibits the Luminosity of the…
  • p. 21 …and Journal of the American Astronautical Society, 6, No. 1, 1959. 146 00015 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 22 …the Seventh Annual ARDC Science and Engineering Symposium, Boston, Massachusetts, November 30, 1960. 00042 "1960 Advances…
  • p. 23 …Makemson) 00071 Aerodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 37 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 39 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 55 …sure, advanced radar systems are being developed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 56 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 9, 10 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 57 …Coroniti (Elsevier Publishing Company, New York, 1963), page 463. 184 The Journal of the Astronautical Sciences…
If the object's
distance was-
Its transverse
velocity was-
Its transverse
acceleration was-
Velocity of single
object was-
100 ft. 0.65 ft./sec. or 0.44 m.p.h. 0.36 ft./sec2 or 0.011g. 3.8 ft./sec. or 2.7 m.p.h.
1,000 ft. 6.5 ft./sec, or 4.4 m.p.h. 3.6 ft./sec2 or 0.11 g. 39 ft./sec. or 27 m.p.h.
2,000 ft. 13 ft./sec. or 8.8 m.p.h. 7.2 ft./sec2 or 0.22g. 78 ft./sec. or 54 m.p.h.
1 mile. 23 m.p.h. 0.56 g 135 m.p.h.
5 miles. 115 m.p.h. 2.8 g 670 m.p.h.
10 miles. 230 m.p.h. 5.6 g 1,300 m.p.h.
The objects in the "Utah" and "Montana" films can only be correlated on the basis of two rather weak points. First, their
structure, or rather lack of it, is similar. Thus as shown, in the "blow-ups" there are no recognizable differences between
them*. Second, the objects on the "Montana" film are manifestly a single pair; on the "Utah" film perhaps 30% of the
frames show clusters of objects seemingly also grouped in pairs.
The weather report was obtained by the author from the Airport Station at Salt Lake City. The nearest station with
available data is Corinne which reported a maximum temperature of 84°, a minimum of 47° and no precipitation. A high
pressure cell from the Pacific Northwest spread over Northern Utah during July 2, the pressure at Tremonton would have a
rising trend, the visibility good, and the winds relatively light. The absence of clouds and the apparently excellent visibility
shown on the films would seem to be in agreement with this report. Through use of References (2) and (3), the Sun's
azimuth N132°E altitude 65° was computed. No shadows were available to confirm the time of filming.
The image size being roughly that of the Montana film (a few of the objects being perhaps 10% larger than the largest on
the Montana) the same remarks as to airplane reflections apply, i.e., they might have been caused by Sun reflections from
airplanes within one to three miles to the observer, although at these distances they should have been identified as
conventional aircraft by the film or the observer. No specific conclusions as to Sun reflection angles can be drawn since the
line of motion of the objects cannot be confirmed. However, the reported E to W motion of the UFO's and their passing
overhead coupled with the SE azimuth of the Sun would make the achievement of optimal Sun reflections rather difficult.
That the images could have been produced by aluminum foil "chaff"** seems possible, at least on the basis of the images
shown, as very intense specular Sun reflections from ribbons of chaff might flare out to about the size of the UFO's.
Examination of film frames obtained from the photogrammetric experiment -- reference Analysis of Photographic
Material, Serial 01, Appendix II -- show that no significant broadening is produced by flat white diffuse reflectors such as
birds, bits of paper, etc. at f/16 under the conditions of the filming. Actual measurements show a slight "bleeding" or
flaring of about 10% to 20%.
The rectangular flat white cardboards of the aforementioned experiments represented very roughly the configuration of
birds. The light reflected by such a surface is probably greater than that from a curved feather surface of a bird.
*The images on the "Utah" film appear to be a little brighter. However, possible variations in development techniques
would not allow quantitative analysis in this regard.
**Bits of aluminum foil dumped overboard by planes, often utilized as a countermeasure against antiaircraft radar. This
material might possibly be in the form of large ribbons several feet long and several inches across.
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One figure shows the appearance of one and two foot birds* as they might appear on a 16 mm frame taken with a 3"
telephoto lens f/16 at a distance of 1,200', at 3,000' and at' 3,300'. Many of the images on the "Utah" film have an angular
diameter of 0.001,2 radians (some as large as 0.001,16 radians), thus they might be interpreted as one foot (wing span)
birds at 600' to 800', two foot (wing span) birds at 1,200' to 1,600' or three foot (wing span) birds at 2,400' to 3,200'. At
these distances, it is doubted if birds would give the appearance of round dots; also they would have been identifiable by
the camera if not visually. However, actual movies of birds in flight would have to be taken to completely confirm this

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