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This Memorandum for Record from the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), dated January 8, 2024, lists AARO's repeated efforts between June 2023 and January 2024 to interview David Grusch for its congressionally directed Historical Record Report. Grusch agreed to an interview on November 14, 2023, but did not appear, and he cited concerns about classified information. AARO concluded he had no intention of providing information. The release also includes email threads, text messages and authorization memoranda from DoD and ODNI.
INTEL & SEC (USA)l(b)(S) I(b)(6) Subject: Re: Dave Grusch All-I did speak with the DoDIG. They went on my behalf to the ICIG to request the classified transcript. Why? Because Grusch gave NOTHING to the DoDIG and claimed the same thing he told you - that it was IC compartmented information and they couldn't have it. The ICIG declined to acquiesce to my request. I am fairly confident I know what compartments he is referring to, because I did my job, but I cannot confirm 100% if he doesn't come see me. As DK points out, the SSCI could give me the transcript. Sean From: (b)(S) '------,---,-----------------------------' Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:41:46 PM T • " • • ~it.fl..,,IJ,:i:....1..U..J..1,,.J~ ....:,1,,1,,~la!..al.l:::u..." .L..(_bl_(6_>---,________J"Kirkpatrick, Sean M HQE OSD o~~L.lL.1.JL...L.J"'---'LI...I......LI.I.........J....L..---------------L----------------. C Subject: RE : Dave Grusch Really helpful, Dave, thanks. Did not know that executive branch folks are in the same boat we are. Will urge Grusch to come through Sean' s portal. From: Kozik, David A SES OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA)l (b)(S) Sent: Wednesda June 7 2023 5:36 PM .____________. To: (bl(S) Kirkpatrick, Sean M HQE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC USA (b)(S) (b)(6) (b)(6) Weighing in- there' s no way in heck that DoD and IC IG will give any third party raw information, ever. IG investigations are a black box for a reason. The best Sean will get from them is a filtered report that the IG releases to everyone. Bottom line: best COA is still for Mr. Grusch to speak to AARO per their confidential process (the one Congress directed in law). If he doesn't, I fear the best assessment you will ever get from AARO is a reflection of a reflection. FYI, Sean won't have an access problem, ie he h as no SA P/CAP r estrictions- it's just the IG divide. Of course, if he did speak to the intel committees, t hey could always provide t heir transcripts/notes to Sean for his review. My two cent s. VR 3
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