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This Memorandum for Record from the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), dated January 8, 2024, lists AARO's repeated efforts between June 2023 and January 2024 to interview David Grusch for its congressionally directed Historical Record Report. Grusch agreed to an interview on November 14, 2023, but did not appear, and he cited concerns about classified information. AARO concluded he had no intention of providing information. The release also includes email threads, text messages and authorization memoranda from DoD and ODNI.
On Jue. Nov 14, 2023. 5:37 AM (bl(5l l(b)(S) ,wro__- ---------------------------~.... te: Mr. Grusch, The law is clear in that we can receive information at all classification levels. We can discuss when you come in. Su ject: Re: Contact Request 5 Good Mornin~~(b_><__l ___~ Thank you for sending these items. As a former agency-level SAPMO and CAPCO I take security policies very seriously. In the DoD SAPCO memo, the term "UAP-related" is not defined. FY23 NDAA Sec. 1673 Subsection B defines it as the following: "any activity or program by a dep artment or agency of the Federal Government or a contractor of such a department or agency relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena , including with respect to materi al retri eval, materi al ana l ysis , reverse engineering, research and devel opmen t , detection a nd tracki ng, developmental o r oper ati onal testi ng , and securi ty protections and enforcement . " The key issue here is that many of these activities have conventional classified and compartmented Security Classification Guides that also cover non-UAP activities as well. To discuss the UAP-related activities would also expose these conventional SAP mission areas. An oral history interview subject must also be absolved of this obligation to protect this information as well, some of it may be bigoted or WAIVED (IAW DODI 5205.11 and 10 USC Sec 119). Furthermore, as discussed Friday, I am seeking a ODNI CAPCO determination to absolve an oral history interview subject of any NDA's relating to UAP-related and adjacent (as stated above) IC CAP information. Additionally, in my particular case, in order to horizontally protect a portion of my oral history testimony previously provided to ICIG and the intelligence committees, we would need to conduct the interview at the HCS-Operations (0) Restricted 4
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