“Nevers”53 pages
- p. 16 …of alien beings and elusive vehicles which never quite seem to manifest themselves. Regardless of one…
- p. 28 …Conversely, there has never been any previous documentary evidence produced by those who would debunk the…
- p. 29 …This had never been officially done before, although most of the persons contacted reported that they…
- p. 37 …Lt Col Cavitt also stated that he had never taken any oath or signed any agreement…
- p. 67 …Because this conclusion is based on the absence of documentation, the issue can never be definitively…
- p. 82 …If written, there is good evidence through accessioning and microfilming records that the Agency never received…
- p. 84 …histories and supporting documents, and it has never routinely received the kind of records which might…
- p. 131 …I have never been sworn to any form of secrecy by anyone concerning this matter and…
- p. 136 …It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How…
- p. 139 …as far as I knew, I never heard anyone say, "Don't talk about this and…
- p. 140 …I never met LaPaz personally, but I knew what he was.
RW: Did Rickett go with…
- p. 141 …I forget since I was there in the Washington area for awhile but I never did…
- p. 143 …To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because…
- p. 144 …I've never seen a Geiger counter myself, but I didn't know if you knew…
- p. 145 …said you never saw...and then you said you were going to...you never saw the…
- p. 146 …I never had any idea that it was anything with the V-2. They told us…
- p. 148 …You and I never saw this. You don't see any military people or military vehicles…
- p. 149 …said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting…
- p. 150 …to him the crash and recovery had never happened. There was no investigation on the Foster…
- p. 153 …No, I never saw this.
SC: I don't know what that is from.
RW: "But…
- p. 154 …So, some of there records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never…
- p. 156 …Cav never told me anything. He said I'll never tell you anything then you won…
- p. 160 …I am quite sure that we never gave it a thought until that book.
- p. 161 …Now, we have never found the flight records to substantiate that, so I don't know…
- p. 171 …related to this inquiry and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not…
- p. 175 …related to this inquiry and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning refraining…
- p. 179 …We never considered a planned cover story; we were concerned with security.
I was the project…
- p. 180 …I never observed any of the balloon "trains" but I did see some of the early…
- p. 190 …and subsequent models were brand new, had never flown anything like that in this area.
A…
- p. 193 …I'd never heard the name Mogul -- the classification was that high. I knew what we…
- p. 205 …I just wanted to see if there had been anything stated to you never to discuss…
- p. 207 …Yeah, I knew that guy, but I never knew Marcel.
Q: So you went, moving into…
- p. 208 …I've never seen a Japanese balloon that I know of, I've never seen the…
- p. 211 …No, I've never seen this.
Trakowski argued that even the name Mogul was classified, and…
- p. 214 …Out PM with several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it. Rocket postponed…
- p. 229 …As far as I know we just never interfaced with the military.
Q: Where were you…
- p. 231 …We never saw anybody in security. There was certainly nobody keeping us secure. If anything, we…
- p. 237 …who was writing a story, and I never quite could determine whether he was on the…
- p. 238 …I have never seen such a document nor have I ever heard of any effort to…
- p. 241 …radar reflectors for tracking purposes—but it never comes out talking about MOGUL and the instrumentation…
- p. 242 …I never met Richard Robert Crane. I knew him only by the path of debris he…
- p. 246 …They never said it, but I know they did because they left me free to do…
- p. 269 …Before now, however, a larger portion of the story was never told. Recent research indicates that…
- p. 271 …and Project MOGUL as first conceived was never put into operational use. However, MOGUL did serve…
- p. 272 …Moore, NYU Constant-Level Balloon Project Engineer, stated that they were never informed of the classified…
- p. 314 …I was never the Holloman Base Weather Officer. Lt Colonel Maas was assigned as Base Weather…
- p. 477 …automatic ballast controls, and this flight was never recovered. Presumably the marked easterly flow then observed…
- p. 501 …of efficiency since on-off operation was never permitted.
The temperature data of these flights is…
- p. 648 …The theodolite lost the balloon in clouds earlier and the airplane observer never succeeded in seeing…
- p. 670 …make model and submit same before quoting. Never heard anything.
1/21/47 Western Products Inc…
- p. 710 …Recorded at Dona but Phil at Tower site never saw rocket. Waited at Dona until 6…
- p. 718 …Out pm with several NYU by weapon carrier but we never located it. Rocket postponed until…
- p. 726 …CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
Opinion has been strengthened that clusters of meteorological balloons will never be a…
23-24). These interviews confirmed that Project MOGUL was a compartmented, sensitive effort. The NYU group was responsible for developing constant level balloons and telemetering equipment that would remain at specified altitudes (within the acoustic duct) while a group from Columbia was to develop acoustic sensors. Doctor Spilhaus, Professor Moore, and certain others of the group were aware of the actual purpose of the project, but they did not know of the project nickname at the time. They handled casual inquiries and/or scientific inquiries/papers in terms of "unclassified meteorological or balloon research." Newly hired employees were not made aware that there was anything special or classified about their work; they were told only that their work dealt with meteorological equipment.
An advance ground team, led by Albert P. Cray, preceded the NYU group to Alamogordo Army Air Field, New Mexico, setting up ground sensors and obtaining facilities for the NYU group. Upon their arrival, Professor Moore and his team experimented with various configurations of neoprene balloons; development of balloon "trains" (see illustration, Atch 25); automatic ballast systems; and use of Naval sonobuoys (as the Watson Lab acoustical sensors had not yet arrived). They also launched what they called "service flights." These "service flights" were not logged nor fully accounted for in the published Technical Reports generated as a result of the contract between NYU and Watson Labs. According to Professor Moore, the "service flights" were composed of balloons, radar reflectors, and payloads specifically designed to test acoustic sensors (both early sonobuoys and the later Watson Labs devices). The "payload equipment" was expendable, and some carried no "Reward" or "Return to . . ." tags because there was to be no association between these flights and the logged constant altitude flights which were fully acknowledged. The NYU balloon flights were listed sequentially in their reports (i.e., A, B, or 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 . . .), yet gaps existed for Flights 2-4 and Flight 9. The interview with Professor Moore indicated that these gaps were the unlogged "service flights."
Professor Moore, the on-scene Project Engineer, gave detailed information concerning his team's efforts. He recalled that radar targets were used for tracking balloons because they did not have all the necessary equipment when they first arrived in New Mexico. Some of the early developmental radar targets were manufactured by a toy or novelty company. These targets were made up of aluminum "foil" or foil-backed paper, balsa wood beams that were coated in an "Elmer's-type" glue to enhance their durability, acetate and/or cloth reinforcing tape, single strand and braided nylon twine, brass eyelets and swivels to form a multi-faced reflector somewhat similar in construction to a box kite (see photographs, Atch 26). Some of these targets were also assembled with purplish-pink tape with symbols on it (see drawing by Moore with Atch 21).
According to the log summary (Atch 27) of the NYU group, Flight A through Flight 7 (November 20, 1946-July 2, 1947) were made with neoprene meteorological balloons (as opposed to the later flights made with polyethylene balloons). Professor Moore stated that the neoprene balloons were susceptible to degrada-