The Roswell Report: Fact vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert

RW: When did all of this first surface, in your life? After you picked up the original stuff and you went on to your career. When did the UFO part first surface in your life?

SC: You mean this sort of stuff?

RW: Yes. Was it with Berlitz and Moore?

SC: Our son sent this book to us.

RW: This is 1980, I think. Yeah 1980.

MC: A lot of that has been debunked by the other two guys.

SC: Well, I don't remember where Joey got this book.

MC: They bought it, they bought it. And he came by to see us and we had just back from fishing and you had one of your cluster headaches. And I did most of the talking here, because Cav was having his cluster headaches.

SC: I had another cycle of cluster headaches. Similar to migraine.

RW: I understand those are really painful.

SC: I am about to come out of it, although I had one last night, and I was awake all night long.

MC: Don't you think that is it. I never even gave it a thought.

RW: Until Mr. Moore and company showed up, around 1980 time frame?

SC: Yeah.

MC: 16 September 82 that he was here.

RW: O.K. Now from my research (not of AF records, but of popular literature records) Friedman is the guy who ran into Marcel down in Louisiana in 1978, because Friedman had been a UFO researcher for years. He ran into Marcel and from his interview of Marcel it got Berlitz and Moore interested, and that's when Marcel then started talking to all of these different people. And then it has kind of grown since then.

MC: And then of course, it's too bad apparently, you see little Jesse was about 11. Cav never told me anything. He said I'll never tell you anything then you won't spread anything. We always wondered how little Jesse knew so much. To us it should have been business. Neol (Marcel's wife) apparently was not able to give any information after Jesse died.