“Nevers”53 pages
- p. 16 …of alien beings and elusive vehicles which never quite seem to manifest themselves. Regardless of one…
- p. 28 …Conversely, there has never been any previous documentary evidence produced by those who would debunk the…
- p. 29 …This had never been officially done before, although most of the persons contacted reported that they…
- p. 37 …Lt Col Cavitt also stated that he had never taken any oath or signed any agreement…
- p. 67 …Because this conclusion is based on the absence of documentation, the issue can never be definitively…
- p. 82 …If written, there is good evidence through accessioning and microfilming records that the Agency never received…
- p. 84 …histories and supporting documents, and it has never routinely received the kind of records which might…
- p. 131 …I have never been sworn to any form of secrecy by anyone concerning this matter and…
- p. 136 …It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How…
- p. 139 …as far as I knew, I never heard anyone say, "Don't talk about this and…
- p. 140 …I never met LaPaz personally, but I knew what he was.
RW: Did Rickett go with…
- p. 141 …I forget since I was there in the Washington area for awhile but I never did…
- p. 143 …To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because…
- p. 144 …I've never seen a Geiger counter myself, but I didn't know if you knew…
- p. 145 …said you never saw...and then you said you were going to...you never saw the…
- p. 146 …I never had any idea that it was anything with the V-2. They told us…
- p. 148 …You and I never saw this. You don't see any military people or military vehicles…
- p. 149 …said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting…
- p. 150 …to him the crash and recovery had never happened. There was no investigation on the Foster…
- p. 153 …No, I never saw this.
SC: I don't know what that is from.
RW: "But…
- p. 154 …So, some of there records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never…
- p. 156 …Cav never told me anything. He said I'll never tell you anything then you won…
- p. 160 …I am quite sure that we never gave it a thought until that book.
- p. 161 …Now, we have never found the flight records to substantiate that, so I don't know…
- p. 171 …related to this inquiry and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not…
- p. 175 …related to this inquiry and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning refraining…
- p. 179 …We never considered a planned cover story; we were concerned with security.
I was the project…
- p. 180 …I never observed any of the balloon "trains" but I did see some of the early…
- p. 190 …and subsequent models were brand new, had never flown anything like that in this area.
A…
- p. 193 …I'd never heard the name Mogul -- the classification was that high. I knew what we…
- p. 205 …I just wanted to see if there had been anything stated to you never to discuss…
- p. 207 …Yeah, I knew that guy, but I never knew Marcel.
Q: So you went, moving into…
- p. 208 …I've never seen a Japanese balloon that I know of, I've never seen the…
- p. 211 …No, I've never seen this.
Trakowski argued that even the name Mogul was classified, and…
- p. 214 …Out PM with several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it. Rocket postponed…
- p. 229 …As far as I know we just never interfaced with the military.
Q: Where were you…
- p. 231 …We never saw anybody in security. There was certainly nobody keeping us secure. If anything, we…
- p. 237 …who was writing a story, and I never quite could determine whether he was on the…
- p. 238 …I have never seen such a document nor have I ever heard of any effort to…
- p. 241 …radar reflectors for tracking purposes—but it never comes out talking about MOGUL and the instrumentation…
- p. 242 …I never met Richard Robert Crane. I knew him only by the path of debris he…
- p. 246 …They never said it, but I know they did because they left me free to do…
- p. 269 …Before now, however, a larger portion of the story was never told. Recent research indicates that…
- p. 271 …and Project MOGUL as first conceived was never put into operational use. However, MOGUL did serve…
- p. 272 …Moore, NYU Constant-Level Balloon Project Engineer, stated that they were never informed of the classified…
- p. 314 …I was never the Holloman Base Weather Officer. Lt Colonel Maas was assigned as Base Weather…
- p. 477 …automatic ballast controls, and this flight was never recovered. Presumably the marked easterly flow then observed…
- p. 501 …of efficiency since on-off operation was never permitted.
The temperature data of these flights is…
- p. 648 …The theodolite lost the balloon in clouds earlier and the airplane observer never succeeded in seeing…
- p. 670 …make model and submit same before quoting. Never heard anything.
1/21/47 Western Products Inc…
- p. 710 …Recorded at Dona but Phil at Tower site never saw rocket. Waited at Dona until 6…
- p. 718 …Out pm with several NYU by weapon carrier but we never located it. Rocket postponed until…
- p. 726 …CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
Opinion has been strengthened that clusters of meteorological balloons will never be a…
RW: We did this, as investigators would, logically. We figured, "where would this stuff be"? So we went to all the different records. Working for me I have a group of reservists who are declassification experts. They are excellent researchers. They spend their whole time dealing with records, so these people know where all this stuff is buried. So, we have been to all the major record centers. The Archives and nuclear records (ranging from unclassified to TS nuclear stuff because the 509th was the only nuclear unit in the world at that time. So, some of there records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never been declassified. Anyway, we found that there was no airplane crash that could account for this. Just to show you how unsafe it was to fly at that time, there were six airplane crashes in less than a month in New Mexico alone in 1947, and that doesn't include the rest of the United States. We were lucky to have six.
SC: Remind me to double back on that. Go ahead with your story and I'll tell you another little story.
RW: We found no indication of a V-2 launch that is not accounted for. There was one scheduled on the 3rd of July and that was scrubbed. There was no indication that there was some sort of nuclear accident at that time where we either dropped a weapon or did something stupid, which we had to consider during that period of time, but there is no indication of any of that happening. Weather balloon themselves are; (although they have a "return to" type of thing on them) supposed to crash. I mean, they go up and then sooner or later they're going to come down. Right? Now what we did find, however (and I not implying what you saw up there), but its a possibility. There was a project run by New York University, out of Holloman at that time. It was a balloon experiment that lasted for years. But at the time a portion of it was Top Secret. It has since then be declassified. It was called Project Mogul.
SC: Never heard of it.
RW: Mogul was designed to run balloons at very high altitudes with extremely sensitive acoustic sensors (what we were looking for were nuclear test on the part of the Russians, because we thought the Russians had gotten the bomb) so you needed high enough and far enough so, and at a constant altitude, we could see...because there were no satellite (Unintelligible) they had a couple Mogul balloons and several of those are unaccounted for during that period of time. They are very large in the sense that some of them were up to 600 feet long, not one gigantic balloon, but a series of balloons, because as they went up to altitude some of them broke off, and some of them dropped ballast and they were very sophisticated. They had a lot of tin foil on them and a lot of different things. Mogul is a possibility. We found a couple of researchers from New Mexico that we are in contact with now because they kept private records in some regards. But, of course that was a Top Secret project at the time and we don't know if Blanchard knew about that or not: (we don't have any indication that he did). And that they used the weather balloon in an attempt to cover the other balloon which was a classified project.