The Roswell Report: Case Closed

# "Crash" Site 1 (Allegedly North of Roswell)

This summarized account is the basis for the alleged "flying saucer" crash site north of Roswell. $ ^{*} $ The exact location is not known since the witness, Mr. James Ragsdale, in two separate sworn statements, has described two different sites, many miles apart. $ ^{107} $ This account was excerpted from an interview with Mr. Ragsdale by author Donald Schmitt. A transcript of the complete interview is included in Appendix C.

## The Account

## James Ragsdale

"They was using dummies in those damned things" $ ^{108} $

Testimony attributed to Ragsdale, who is deceased, states that he and a friend were camping one evening and saw something fall from the sky. The next morning, when they went to investigate, they saw a crash site:

"One part [of the craft] was kind of buried in the ground and one part of it was sticking our [out] of the ground." "I'm sure that [there] was bodies... either bodies or dummies." "The federal government could have been doing something they didn't want anyone to know what this was. They was using dummies in those damned things...they could use remote control...but it was either dummies or bodies or something laying there. They looked like bodies. They were not very long... [not] over four or five foot long at the most." "We didn't see their faces or nothing like that... we had just gotten to the site and the Army...and all [was] coming and we got into a damned jeep and took off."

This testimony then describes an assortment of military vehicles used to recover the "bodies": "It was two or three six-by-six Army trucks a wrecker and everything. Leading the pack was a '47 Ford car with guys in it... It was six or eight big trucks besides the pickup, weapons carriers and stuff like that." Ragsdale also said that before he left the area he observed the military personnel "gathering stuff up" and "they cleaned everything all up."

## Assessment

In his testimony, Ragsdale made numerous references to equipment, vehicles, and procedures consistent with documented anthropomorphic dummy recoveries for projects High Dive and Excelsior. The repeated use of the term "dummy" and the witness' own admission that "they was using dummies in those damned things" and "I'm sure that was bodies...either bodies or dummies"