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This is the transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. AARO Director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick testified on the office's mission, budget, data collection and review of the historical record. He said AARO had found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity or off-world technology. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, and one of them was resolved as a commuter aircraft.
7 On the far right upper corner, you will see a breakout of the morphologies of all of the UAP that are reported. Over half, about 52 percent, of what has been reported to us are round or spheres. The rest of those break out into all kinds of different other shapes. The gray box is, essentially, there is no data on what its shape is. Either it was not reported or the sensor did not collect it. The bottom map is a heat map of all reporting areas across the globe that we have available to us. What you will notice is that there is a heavy collection bias both in altitude and in geographic location. That is where all of our sen- sors exist. That is where our training ranges are. That is where our operational ranges are. That is where all of our platforms are. In the middle, what we have done is reduce the most typically reported UAP characteristics to these fields. Mostly round, mostly one to four meters, white, silver, translucent, metallic 10,000 to 30,000 feet with apparent velocities from stationary to Mach two. No thermal exhausts are usually detected. We get intermittent radar returns, we get intermittent radio returns, and we get inter- mittent thermal signatures. That is what we are looking for and trying to understand what that is. Next slide. I am going to walk you through two cases that we have declas- sified recently. This first one is an MQ–9 in the Middle East, ob- serving that blow up, which is an apparent spherical object, via EO [electro-optical] sensors. Those are not IR [infrared]. If you want to go ahead and click that and play it, you will see it come through the top of the screen—there it goes—and then the camera will slew to follow it. You will see it pop in and out of the field of view there. This is, essentially, all of the data we have associated with this event from some years ago. It is going to be virtually impossible to fully identify that just based off of that video. Now, what we can do and what we are doing is keeping that as part of that group of 52 percent to see what are the similarities, what are the trends across all these, do we see these in a par- ticular distribution, do they all behave the same or not. As we get more data, we will be able to go back and look at these in a fuller context. How are we going to get more data? We are working with the joint staff to issue guidance to all the services and commands that will then establish what are the reporting re- quirements, the timeliness, and all of the data that is required to be delivered to us and retained from all the associated sensors. That, historically, has not been the case and it has been happen- stance that data has been collected. Next slide. This particular event, South Asia MQ–9 looking at another MQ– 9, and what is highlighted there in that red circle is an object that flies through the screen. Unlike the previous one, this one actually shows some really interesting things that everyone thought was truly anomalous to start with. First of all, it is a high-speed object that is flying in the field of regard of two MQ–9s. Second, it appears to have this trail behind it, which at first blush you would think that looks like a propulsion trail.
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