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Terauchi interview transcript, Dick Gordon, 2 Jan 1987

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This FAA record of interview documents a January 2, 1987 session in Anchorage, Alaska, in which Inspector Richard O. Gordon of FSDO-63 questioned JAL Captain Kenju Terauchi about his crew's November 17, 1986 sighting. Terauchi describes two small craft with exhaust-like lights that flew near his aircraft and a much larger mothership, and says the target appeared green on his onboard radar. He also reports VHF interference and says the objects matched his 360-degree turn and his descent.

R. Gordon Okay, yes
K. Terauchi But this one is nozzle direction (Japanese)(garbled) we couldn't
see this light this direction we could see big flame
R. Gordon Maybe we're saying then if you're looking at the back of it and
then when it turns sideways this doesn't show. Okay I
understand.
F. Fujii From the forward you could see the flame and the exhaust and
flame were surrounding it.
R. Gordon Okay
F. Fujii So maybe ah, I - I think ah, um exhaust started (garbled)
R. Gordon Being okay these things here, maybe being each one of these
things here, so these were maybe stacked, in otherwards if you
were looking at the top view down, you would just see one if you
come around here you would see all of those lights. Okay yeah
K. Terauchi So if they moved up or I guess this ah exhaust moved to ah, this
way down so finally five years ago I saw the rocket.
R. Gordon Maybe that would account for that bright light he saw five years
ago. In otherwords if these turned down you couldn't see them
and then when it looked like it moved over here some over here
turned up and then you could see them where it looked like it
moved over there? So you're saying •
K. Terauchi Anyway a h (Japanese) right (Japanese) ••• Talk to me •.•
Could not see but only here and here ••• and this, here, dark
area, I saw sparks, like fire. When using gasoline or carbon
fuel. You can see a great big flame, but I could not see (flame)
a t all in this angle, although there was a big blast.
F. Fujii Seems like it's really high technology because you can't see
anything over here unless it's spinning rotation.
R. Gordon Yeah, okay, yeah, somebody said sometimes the sparks kick over
into that and you could see the exhaust, now with ah that in mind
this other picture you have here, where would this be on this
thing captain?
F. Fujii Wha t you're asking hi m where this (garbled) •••
K. Terauchi Quite different, this is just small space ship, this one size of
carrier, two times carrier so mothership, so ah after they flew
with us three ah five minutes like home mission, then move to a
mothership. So t hen I found mothership light, but this is not
llght, al l engine, because ah we have contact seven or e ight mile
here, so we saw this first lights, s o um after light contact a h
they move behind so we saw this pairs of light, so we saw this
light same size, this one, same size.
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