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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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in
the astronaut
training
program
in
Houston.
In
addition
to
well
over
a
hundred
scientific
papers,
and
several
articles
written
for
the
Encyclopedias
Britannica
and
Americana,
Dr. Sagan
is
co-author
of
"The
Atmospheres
of
Mars
and
Venus"
(1961), "Planets" (1966),
and
"Intelligent
Life in
the
Universe."
(
1966).
STATEMENT OF
DR.
CARL
SAGAN,
DEPARTMENT
OF ASTRONOMY,
CORNELL
UNIVERSITY,
ITHACA,
N.Y.
Dr.
SAGAN.
Thank
you
very
much,
Congressman Roush.
As
I
understand
what
the
committee
would
like
from me,
is
a
dis-
cussion
of
the
likelihood
of
intelligent extraterrestrial
life,
and
sincethis
estimate
is
to
be
made
in
this
symposium,
clearly
it
is
the
hypo-
thesis
that
unidentified
objects
are
of
extraterrestrial
origin
which
the committee
must
have
in
mind.
I'm
delighted
to
tell
about contemporary
scientific
thinking
along
these
lines,
but
let
me
begin
by
saying
that
I
do
not think the
evidence
is
at
all
persuasive,
that
UFO's
are
of
intelligent extraterrestrial
origin
nor
do
I
think the
evidence
is
convincing that
no
UFO's
are
of
intelligent extraterrestrial
origin.
I
think
as each
of
the preceding speakers
has
mentioned,
but
per-
haps
not
sufficiently
emphasized,
that the
question
is
very
much
an
open
one,
and
it
is
certainly
too
soon
to
harden
attitudes
and
make
any
permanent
contentions
on
the
subject.
I
find
that the
discussion, like
elsewhere,
is
best
evaluated
if
we
con-
sider
the
question
of
life
on
earth.
I
suppose
that
if
you
had
all
your
prejudices
removed and
were
concerned with the
question
of whether
the
earth
was
populated
by
life
of
any
sort,
how
would you
go
about
finding
out?
If,
for
example,
we
were
on some
other planet,
let's
say
Mars, and
looking at the
Earth,
what
would
we
see?
Fortunately
we now
have
meteorolgical
satellite
photographs of the
earth
at
various
resolu-tions,
so
we
can answer
the
question.
The
first
large
slide.
This
is
a
photograph of
the
earth.
That
is
the
full
earth,
which
you
are looking at
which
is
primarily cloud
cover.
This
is
the
Pacific
Ocean.
You
can
see
southern
California in
the
upper
right,
and,
as ad-
vertised
by
the
local
chamber
of
commerce, you
can
see
it
is
cloud
free.
[Laughter.]
Dr. SAGAN.
Now,
it is
clear
that very
little
information
about
the
earth,
much
less possibility
of
life
on
it,
is
obtained
by a
picture
at
this
resolution.
The
next
large
slide
is
a
TIROS
photograph of
the earth at
about
1
-mile
resolution,
that
is,
things smaller
than a
mile cannot be
seen,
and
very prolonged
scrutiny
of the
entire eastern
seaboard
of
the
United
States
shows no
sign
of
life,
intelligent,
or
otherwise.
We
have
looked at several
thousand photographs of
the earth,
andyou
may
be
interested
to see
that there
is
no
sign of
life,
not only in
New
York
or Washington,but
also
in
Peking,
Moscow,London,
Paris,
and
so on.
The
reason
is
that
human
beings
have transformed the earth at
this
kind of
scale
very
little,
and
therefore the
artifacts
of
human
intelli-
gence are just
not
detectable
photographically in the daytime with
this
sort
of
resolution.
The
next
slide
shows one of the
few
successful finds
of
intelligentlife
on
earth that
we made down toward the lower
left
you can
see

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