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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
81
yet
the
objects
which
he
saw
(nine
fluttering
discs)
changed
angular
elevation,
moved
across
his
view through
an
azimuthal
range
of
about
90
degrees,
and
were
seen
by
him
during
the
period
when
he
was
climbing
his
own
plane
through
an
altitude
interval
that
he
estimates
to
be
of
the
order of
500
to
1000
ft.
Anyone
familiar
with
mirage
optics
would
find
it
utterly
unreasonable
to
claim that
such
an
observation
was
satisfactorily
explained
as
a
mirage.
Similarly,
as has
been
noted above,
the
1948
sighting
by
Eastern
Airlines
pilots
Chiles
and
Whitted, once
explained
by Menzel
as
a
"mirage",
involves
quantitative
and
observational factors
that
are
not even
approximately
similar to
known
mirage
effects.
There
are
some
extremely
rare
and
still
not
well
-explained
refractive
anomalies
in the
atmosphere, such
as
those
that
have
been
discussed
by Min-
naert,
but good
UFO
observations
are so
much
more numerous
than
those types
of
rare
anomalies
that
it
is
quite
out
of
the
question
ot explain
the
former
by
the
latter.
Sundogs,
or
parhelia,
are
a
quite
well-understood
phenomenon
of meteoro-
logical
optics.
Refractions
of
the
sun's
rays
on
horizontally
falling
tabular
ice
crystals
produce
fuzzy,
brownish
-colored
luminous
spots
at about
22
degrees
to
the
left
and
right
of the
sun
when
suitable
ice
-crystal
clouds
are
present.
Rarer
phenomena,
produced
by
the
moon
rather
than
the
sun, are
termed
paraselenae.
Sundogs
are
relatively
common,
but
it
is
probably
true
that
many
laymen
are
not
really
conscious
of
them
as
a
distinct
optical
phenomenon.
For
this
reason,
it
might
seem
sensible
to
suggest that
some
observers
have
been
misled
by
think-
ing that
sundogs
were
UFOs.
However,
anyone
with
the
slightest
knowledge
of
meteorological
optics
talking
directly
to
such
a
witness
would,
within only
a
few moments
of
questioning,
establish
what
was
involved.
Instead of dealing
with anything
like
a
sharp
-edged
"object",
one
would
quickly
find
that theobserver
was
describing
a
very
vague
spot of
light
which
he
saw
to
the
left
or
right
of the sun, probably very
near
the
horizon.
To
blandly
suggest,
as
Menzel
has
done,
that
Waldo
Harris
in
the
10/2/61
sighting
near
Salt
Lake
City
was
fooled
by
a
sundog
is
to
ignore
either
all
of the
main
features
of the
report orto
ignore
all
of
what
is
known
about
sundogs.
Undersuns,
sub
-suns,
can
be
seen rather frequently
when
flying
in
jet
air-
craft
at high
altitudes.
They
are
a
reflection
phenomenon
produced
by
horizon-
tally floating
ice
crystals,
which
reflect
an image
of
the
sun (or
at
night
the
moon)
and
can
give
surprisingly
sharp
solar
images
in
still
air
where
turbulence
does not cause
appreciable
tilting
of the
ice crystals.
Here
again,
it
is
probablytrue that
many
laymen
may
be
sufficiently
unaware
of
this optical
phenomenon
that they
could
be confused
when
they
see one.
But, as
with sundogs, the
stringest
quantitative
requirements
on
the
location
of
this optical
effect
relative
to
the
sun would
permit
any
experienced
investigator to
quickly
ascertain
whether
or not
an
undersun
was
involved in
this
specific
sighting.
The
effect
involves specular
reflection
of the
sun's rays,
whence
the
undersun
is
always
seen
at
a
negative
angle of
elevation
in
which
the
observer's
line
of
sight to
the
undersun
is
just
as
far below the
horizon
as
the
sun
momentarily
lies
above
that
same
observer's horizon. Clearly,
many
of the
UFO
cases that
have
been
cited
in
examples
given
above
do
not
come
anywhere
near
satisfying
the angular
requirements for
an
undersun.
In
my
own
experience,
I
have
already
come
across
two
or
three
reports,
out of thousands
that
I
have examined, where
Iwas
led
to suspect that the
observer
was
fooled
by
an
undersun.
"Reflections
off
clouds"
have
been
referred to repeatedly in Menzel's
writings,
never with
any
quantitative discussion
of
precisely
what he means.
But
the
impression
is
clearly
left
that
many
observers
have
been
and
are
continuing to
be
fooled
by
some
kind of cloud
-reflections.
Aside
from
the above
-described
undersun,
I
am
unaware
of
way
"cloud
-reflection
phenomenon"
that could
produce anything remotely resembling
a
distinct object.
Clouds
of
droplets
or
ice crystals
do
not provide
a
source of specular
reflection
(except in the case ofhorizontally
-floating ice crystals
observed
from
above with
a
bright
luminary,
such as sun
or
moon,
in the distance—undersun).
What
Menzel
could
possibly
have
in
mind when
he
talks loosely
about such cloud
reflections
(and he
does so
in
many
different places in his books),
I
cannot imagine.
Inversions are invoked
by
Menzel,
and
in
official
evaluations, to
account for
certain
UFO
sightings. Inversions produced
by
radiational cooling
or
by
atmos-pheric subsidence are
relatively
common
meteorological
phenomena. In some
cases, quite
sharp
inversions with
marked temperature
differences in rather
small
vertical distances are
known
to occur. It
is
such inversion layers that areresponsible for
some of the most
striking desert mirages of the looming type.

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