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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 36 …Let me say that the National Acadeiny is undertaking an evaluation of the University of Colorado…
  • p. 81 …I sent all of the relevant information on this ease to the University of Colorado UFO…
  • p. 100 …In October 1966 the University of Colorado was selected by the Air Force Office of Scientific…
  • p. 134 …Hartmann of the University of Arizona, and Prof. Roy Craig of the University of Colorado. At…
  • p. 204 …Menzel, a native of Colorado, received his Ph. D. from Princeton University in 1924. After one…
  • p. 210 …of known hoaxes, such as the ingenious one perpetrated by students of the University of Colorado…
  • p. 211 …and an additional year of analysis by the University of Colorado have disclosed no tangible evidence…
  • p. 212 …Rocky Ford High School, Rocky Ford, Colorado Academic scholarship received from the University of Colorado: B…
  • p. 213 …28, 1930; and graduated from the University of Colorado with a B. Mus. Educ. in June…
  • p. 217 …Such an example is the unfortunate selection of the University of Colorado team headed by a…
  • p. 226 …Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado State University, August…
  • p. 239 …Air Force, NICAP, APRO, and the University of Colorado Project—not to mention a number of…
  • p. 241 …Full Professor, Colorado State 1961-66. Professor and Head, Dept. of Plant Science, Utah State University…
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an unknown moving at speeds estimated at about 7000 mph. It is an interesting
case, one that came to light for somewhat curious reasons. A low overcast pre-
cluded any visual sightings from control tower personnel, so this is not a radar-
visual case. I found no conventional explanation to account for it.
It has to be stressed that there are many ways in which false returns can be
seen on radarscopes, resulting not only from ducting of ground returns but also
from interference from other nearby radars, from internal electronic signals
within the radar set, from angels and insects (weak returns), etc. Hence each
case has to be examined independently. After studying a number of official
evaluations of radar UFO cases, I get the impression that there would probably
be more radar Unknowns if there were less tendency to quickly explain them
away by qualitative arguments that overlook pertinent quantitative matters. Even
at that, there are too many conceded unknowns in official files to be ignored.
A famous case in UFO annals involved a B-29 over the Gulf of Mexico, where
several unknowns were tracked on the airborne scopes and were seen simul-
taneously by crewmen, moving under the aircraft as they passed by (Refs. 4, 10,
25). This one is still carried as Unidentified in official files. Still another famous
combined radar-visual case, which Hynek has termed "one of the most puzzling
cases I have studied," occurred between Rapid City and Bismarck on August 5,
1953. It involved both ground and airborne radar and ground and airborne visual
sightings, but is far too long and complex to recapitulate here.
Perhaps the above suffices to indicate that UFOs are at times seen on radar and
have been so seen for many years. The question of why we don't hear a great deal
about such sightings, especially with newer and more elaborate surveillance
radars, is a reasonable question. Some of the answers to that one are posed by
the statement of Dr. Robert M. L. Baker, Jr., in these proceedings. Other parts
of the answer must be omitted here.
WHY AREN'T THERE NUMEROUS PHOTOS OF UFO'S IF THEY REALLY EXIST?
Here is a question for which I regard available answers as still unsatis-
factory. I concede that it does seem reasonable to expect that there should, over
the past 20 years, be substantially more good photos than are known to exist.
Although I do not regard that puzzle as satisfactorily answered, neither do I
think that it can be safely concluded that the paucity of good photos disproves
the reality of the UFOs. Many imponderables enter into consideration of this
question.
1. Some general considerations
If one had reliable statistics on the fraction of the population that carried
loaded cameras with them at any randomly selected moment (I would guess it
would be only of the order of one per cent) and had figures bearing on the proba-
bility that a UFO witness would think of taking a photo before his observation
terminated, then these might be combined with available information on num-
bers of sightings to attempt crude estimates of the expected number of UFO
photos that should have accumulated in 20 years. Then one would need to
weight the data for likelihood that any given photo would find its way to some-
one who would make it known in scientific circles, and then this figure might be
compared with the very small number of photos that appear to stand the test of
the exceedingly close scrutiny photos demand.
A general rule among serious UFO investigators with whom I have been in
touch is that the UFO photo is no better than the photographer (Hall). Many
hoax photos have been brought forth. A UFO photo can be sold; this attracts
hoax and fraud to an extent not matched in anecdotal accounts. Many photos
have been clearly established as fraudulent in nature; far larger numbers seem
so suspicious on circumstantial grounds that no serious investigator gives them
more than casual attention.
An interesting, even if very crude check on the likelihood of securing photos of
UFOs from the general populace is afforded by fireball events. On April 25, 1966,
a fireball rated at about magnitude —10, arced northward across the northeastern
U.S. From the total geographic area over which this fireball was visually
detected, the population count is about 40 million persons. According to one
account (Ref. 43), 200 visual accounts were turned in, and I infer that only 6
photos were submitted. The fireball was visible for a relatively long time as
meteors go, about 30 seconds, and was, of course, at a great altitude (25 to 110
km). That 6 photos were submitted (at time of publication of the cited article)

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