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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 18 …Some of these statements which lead to mis- conceptions are: —(1) Only UFO "buffs" report UFO…
  • p. 19 …One great misconception is that only UFO buffs report UFO's; quite the opposite is the…
  • p. 25 …saw their very impressive and sur- prising UFO files, the pattern of which is entirely different…
  • p. 39 …files and modes of operation of both private and official (i.e., Project Bluebook) UFO investigative…
  • p. 41 …Misinter- preted natural phenomena (Hypothesis 3) do explain many sincerely -submitted UFO reports; but, as I…
  • p. 45 …It summarizes about 750 UFO cases in the NICAP files up to about
  • p. 46 …Reference 7 is another now -accessible source of extremely significant UFO documentation; it is unfortunate that…
  • p. 54 …Longview, Wash., July 8, 1949 Many of the UFO cases I am citing are drawn intentionally…
  • p. 60 54 terrestrial hypothesis for UFOs, incomprehensibility must be expected as almost inevitable. Hence there is more…
  • p. 63 …NICAP files. The article, by Post reporter Jimmie Woods, represents one of those rare UFO feature…
  • p. 68 …5) remarks that an astronomer working under con- tract to the official UFO investigatory program interviewed…
  • p. 70 …UFO sightings by meteorologists could be extended very con- siderably by drawing on my file of…
  • p. 72 …the UFO problem in the ensuing two-year period. Many details from the official file on…
  • p. 75 …In my files are many other "balloon" cases from the past twenty years, cases that ought…
  • p. 76 …The third target was spotted visually by myself," Hemphill's signed statement in the case -file…
  • p. 78 …25), who evidently drew his information from the official files. Ruppelt (Ref. 5) states that when…
  • p. 79 …unknowns in official files to be ignored. A famous case in UFO annals involved a B…
  • p. 86 …explanations for classic UFO cases that have been made in the official files in the last…
  • p. 91 …Official file on October 15, 1948 Fukuoka case, Project Bluebook. 43. Melbourne (Australia) Sun, December 16…
  • p. 120 …During that night, and several succeeding nights, there were many reports of UFO's over northern…
  • p. 128 …THE UFO PROPULSION PROBLEM By way of introducing the propulsion problem of UFO's, I will…
  • p. 185 179 rod N.T.TuDE tOURIE 3• MOTION OF UFO SYSTIM a..„. — 73 2.3 2…
  • p. 206 …for a UFO. This viewpoint is absolutely nonsense and the Air Force files bear witness to…
  • p. 207 …But such behavior does not imply, as the UFO addicts argue, the presence of an intelligence…
  • p. 208 …He watches the UFO for a minute or two until it finally disappears. He cannot be…
  • p. 218 …UFO presence. This can be done with existing information. Up- date and upgrade the files with…
  • p. 224 …claimed to have observed a UFO. Interestingly enough the official files con- tain fewer than 12…
  • p. 239 …Indeed, at present the scientific study of the UFO problem is greatly hampered by the circumstance…
  • p. 244 …The dotted line represents "re- liable" sightings in the files of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization…
  • p. 245 …Many radar sightings of UFO's are on file. In a few cases, a UFO has…
  • p. 247 …He states that he has on file more than 300 UFO sightings prior to the 20th…
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an unknown moving at speeds estimated at about 7000 mph. It is an interesting
case, one that came to light for somewhat curious reasons. A low overcast pre-
cluded any visual sightings from control tower personnel, so this is not a radar-
visual case. I found no conventional explanation to account for it.
It has to be stressed that there are many ways in which false returns can be
seen on radarscopes, resulting not only from ducting of ground returns but also
from interference from other nearby radars, from internal electronic signals
within the radar set, from angels and insects (weak returns), etc. Hence each
case has to be examined independently. After studying a number of official
evaluations of radar UFO cases, I get the impression that there would probably
be more radar Unknowns if there were less tendency to quickly explain them
away by qualitative arguments that overlook pertinent quantitative matters. Even
at that, there are too many conceded unknowns in official files to be ignored.
A famous case in UFO annals involved a B-29 over the Gulf of Mexico, where
several unknowns were tracked on the airborne scopes and were seen simul-
taneously by crewmen, moving under the aircraft as they passed by (Refs. 4, 10,
25). This one is still carried as Unidentified in official files. Still another famous
combined radar-visual case, which Hynek has termed "one of the most puzzling
cases I have studied," occurred between Rapid City and Bismarck on August 5,
1953. It involved both ground and airborne radar and ground and airborne visual
sightings, but is far too long and complex to recapitulate here.
Perhaps the above suffices to indicate that UFOs are at times seen on radar and
have been so seen for many years. The question of why we don't hear a great deal
about such sightings, especially with newer and more elaborate surveillance
radars, is a reasonable question. Some of the answers to that one are posed by
the statement of Dr. Robert M. L. Baker, Jr., in these proceedings. Other parts
of the answer must be omitted here.
WHY AREN'T THERE NUMEROUS PHOTOS OF UFO'S IF THEY REALLY EXIST?
Here is a question for which I regard available answers as still unsatis-
factory. I concede that it does seem reasonable to expect that there should, over
the past 20 years, be substantially more good photos than are known to exist.
Although I do not regard that puzzle as satisfactorily answered, neither do I
think that it can be safely concluded that the paucity of good photos disproves
the reality of the UFOs. Many imponderables enter into consideration of this
question.
1. Some general considerations
If one had reliable statistics on the fraction of the population that carried
loaded cameras with them at any randomly selected moment (I would guess it
would be only of the order of one per cent) and had figures bearing on the proba-
bility that a UFO witness would think of taking a photo before his observation
terminated, then these might be combined with available information on num-
bers of sightings to attempt crude estimates of the expected number of UFO
photos that should have accumulated in 20 years. Then one would need to
weight the data for likelihood that any given photo would find its way to some-
one who would make it known in scientific circles, and then this figure might be
compared with the very small number of photos that appear to stand the test of
the exceedingly close scrutiny photos demand.
A general rule among serious UFO investigators with whom I have been in
touch is that the UFO photo is no better than the photographer (Hall). Many
hoax photos have been brought forth. A UFO photo can be sold; this attracts
hoax and fraud to an extent not matched in anecdotal accounts. Many photos
have been clearly established as fraudulent in nature; far larger numbers seem
so suspicious on circumstantial grounds that no serious investigator gives them
more than casual attention.
An interesting, even if very crude check on the likelihood of securing photos of
UFOs from the general populace is afforded by fireball events. On April 25, 1966,
a fireball rated at about magnitude —10, arced northward across the northeastern
U.S. From the total geographic area over which this fireball was visually
detected, the population count is about 40 million persons. According to one
account (Ref. 43), 200 visual accounts were turned in, and I infer that only 6
photos were submitted. The fireball was visible for a relatively long time as
meteors go, about 30 seconds, and was, of course, at a great altitude (25 to 110
km). That 6 photos were submitted (at time of publication of the cited article)

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