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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
68"the
pilot
* * *
sighted
a
round
white
light
below
him,
circling
and
rising
at
a
speed
estimated at
150
to
200
knots
as
it
proceeded
on
a
southeast
course."
Menzel
states
that the
B-36
"made a
sharp
descending
turn
toward
the
light,
which
was
in
view
for
a
period
of
three
to
[we
minutes."
The
light
was
blinking,
and
Keyhoe
mentions
that the
blink
-interval
was
esti-
mated
at about
2
seconds.
Menzel
concurs
in
the
official
evaluation
of
this
as
a
"weather
balloon",
noting
that
a
pilot
balloon
had
been
released
at
Fairchild
AFB
at
1:00
a.m.,
and
remarking
that the
"winds
aloft
at
altitudes
of
7,000
to
10,000
ft.
were
from
the
northwest
with,
a
speed of
about
fifty
knots."
He
says
that
"computations
showed
that the
existing
winds would
have
carried
the
balloon
to
the
southeast,
and
it
would
have
been
over
Rosalia,
which
is
12.5 nautical miles
southeast
of
Fairchild,
in
about
fifteen
minutes."
In
fact,
Rosalia
lies
33
statute
miles
SSE
of
Fairchild,
or
about
twice
as
far
as
Menzel
indicates.
The
net
drift
of the
balloon
cannot
be
deduced
simply
from
the
winds
in
the
7
-10,000
-ft.
layer;
and,
in
fact,
an
examination
of the
upper-winddata
for that
area
on
February
6
indicates
that the
winds
at
lower
levels
were
blowing
out
of the southwest.
The
trajectory
of the
balloon
would have
taken
it
initially
east-northeast,
then
east,
and
finally
curving
back
to
the
southeast
as
it
got
up
to
near
the
10,000
-ft.
levels.
By
that
time,
it
would have
been
already
east
of
Spokane,
nowhere
near
Rosalia.
The
small
light
(candle or
flashlight
bulb)
used
on
night
pibal
runs
is
almost
invisible
to the
naked
eye
beyond
a few
miles' distance.
(A
1
-candle
source
at
3.000
ft.
is
equivalent to
a
star
of
about
the
'first
magnitude.
At
6
miles,
then,
one
finds
that the
same
source equals
the
luminosity of
a
sixth
-magnitude
star,
the
limit
of
human
vision
under
the
most
favorable
conditions.
For
a
pilot,
looking
out
of
a
cockpit
with
slight
inside
glare to
spot
a
1
-candle
source
against
a
darkbackground
would
require
that
the
source
be
only
a few
miles
away.)
At
some
30
miles,
the
B-36
pilot
could
not
have
seen the
small
light
on
a
ballon
east of
Spokane.
Menzel
states
that
"the
balroon carried
white
running
lights
which
accounted for the
blinking
described,
and
the
circling
climb
of
the
UFO
is typical
of
a
balloon's
course."
Neither
inference
is
supportable.
The
light
used
on
pilot
balloons
is
a
steady
source;
only
if
one were
right
above
it,
with
its
random
swing
causing
intermittent
occultation,
would one
ever
perceive blinking.
But
then,
flying
at
B-36
speeds,
the
pilot
would have swept
over the
sector
of
perceptible occultation
in
only
a
matter
of
seconds.
Yet
here
the
pilot
watched
it
for
a
reported
3-5
minutes.
Furthermore,
"circling
climb" cannot be
called
"typical
of
a
balloon's
course."
The
balloon trajectory
is
controlled
by
the
ambient
wind
shears
and
only with unusually strong
directional
shears
would
a
pilot flying
a
straight
course
perceive
a
pilot
balloon to
be
"circling."
In
all,
there
appear
to
be so
many
serious
difficulties
with the
balloon
explanation for the Rosalia
sighting
that
it is
not
possible
to accept Menzel's
statement:
"Thus
all
the evidence supports
ATIC's
conclusion that the
UFO
was a
weather
balloon."
4.
Case
34.
Boston, Mass.,
June
1,
1954
At 0930
EDST,
a
Paris
-New York
TWA
Constellation
was
passing
near Boston
when
the cockpit
crew
spotted
"a
large,
white
-colored disc
-like
object"
overhead
(
Ref. 41). Capt. Charles
J.
Kratovil,
copilot
W.
R.
Davis,
and
flight
engineer
Harold
Raney
all
watched
it
for
a
total
time of
10
minutes as
they
flew
on
their
own
southwestward
course to
New
York.
They would
occasionally lose
it
behindoverlying clouds.
Knowing
that they
were
flying into
headwinds, they concluded
that
it
could not be
any
kind of balloon,
so they radioed the Boston
airport
control
tower, which informed
him
that
jets
were scrambled
and saw
the
object,
but could not
close
with
it.
After landing in
New
York, Capt. Kratovil
was
informed that
official
spokesmen
had
attributed the sighting to
a "weather balloon" released
from
Grenier
AFB,
in
New
Hampshire.

Cases discussed

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