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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 18 …Some of these statements which lead to mis- conceptions are: —(1) Only UFO "buffs" report UFO…
  • p. 19 …One great misconception is that only UFO buffs report UFO's; quite the opposite is the…
  • p. 25 …saw their very impressive and sur- prising UFO files, the pattern of which is entirely different…
  • p. 39 …files and modes of operation of both private and official (i.e., Project Bluebook) UFO investigative…
  • p. 41 …Misinter- preted natural phenomena (Hypothesis 3) do explain many sincerely -submitted UFO reports; but, as I…
  • p. 45 …It summarizes about 750 UFO cases in the NICAP files up to about
  • p. 46 …Reference 7 is another now -accessible source of extremely significant UFO documentation; it is unfortunate that…
  • p. 54 …Longview, Wash., July 8, 1949 Many of the UFO cases I am citing are drawn intentionally…
  • p. 60 54 terrestrial hypothesis for UFOs, incomprehensibility must be expected as almost inevitable. Hence there is more…
  • p. 63 …NICAP files. The article, by Post reporter Jimmie Woods, represents one of those rare UFO feature…
  • p. 68 …5) remarks that an astronomer working under con- tract to the official UFO investigatory program interviewed…
  • p. 70 …UFO sightings by meteorologists could be extended very con- siderably by drawing on my file of…
  • p. 72 …the UFO problem in the ensuing two-year period. Many details from the official file on…
  • p. 75 …In my files are many other "balloon" cases from the past twenty years, cases that ought…
  • p. 76 …The third target was spotted visually by myself," Hemphill's signed statement in the case -file…
  • p. 78 …25), who evidently drew his information from the official files. Ruppelt (Ref. 5) states that when…
  • p. 79 …unknowns in official files to be ignored. A famous case in UFO annals involved a B…
  • p. 86 …explanations for classic UFO cases that have been made in the official files in the last…
  • p. 91 …Official file on October 15, 1948 Fukuoka case, Project Bluebook. 43. Melbourne (Australia) Sun, December 16…
  • p. 120 …During that night, and several succeeding nights, there were many reports of UFO's over northern…
  • p. 128 …THE UFO PROPULSION PROBLEM By way of introducing the propulsion problem of UFO's, I will…
  • p. 185 179 rod N.T.TuDE tOURIE 3• MOTION OF UFO SYSTIM a..„. — 73 2.3 2…
  • p. 206 …for a UFO. This viewpoint is absolutely nonsense and the Air Force files bear witness to…
  • p. 207 …But such behavior does not imply, as the UFO addicts argue, the presence of an intelligence…
  • p. 208 …He watches the UFO for a minute or two until it finally disappears. He cannot be…
  • p. 218 …UFO presence. This can be done with existing information. Up- date and upgrade the files with…
  • p. 224 …claimed to have observed a UFO. Interestingly enough the official files con- tain fewer than 12…
  • p. 239 …Indeed, at present the scientific study of the UFO problem is greatly hampered by the circumstance…
  • p. 244 …The dotted line represents "re- liable" sightings in the files of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization…
  • p. 245 …Many radar sightings of UFO's are on file. In a few cases, a UFO has…
  • p. 247 …He states that he has on file more than 300 UFO sightings prior to the 20th…
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2. Case 32. Odessa, Wash., December 10,1952
According to an official case-summary (Ref. 7, Rept. 10), two airmen in an
F-94 "made visual and radar contact with a large, round white object larger
than any known type of aircraft" near 1915 PST on 12/10/52 near Odessa.
The radar operator in the F-94 had airborne radar contact with the object
for 15 minutes, and during that same interval, ground radar was also track-
ing it. The summary states that "the object appeared to be level with the inter-
cepting F-94 at 26,000 to 27,000 ft," and it is pointed out that "a dim reddish-
white light came from the object as it hovered, reversed direction almost in-
stantaneously and then disappeared." It is stated that the skies were clear above
3000 ft. The official evaluation of this incident is "Possible Balloon", although
the report notes that no upper-air research balloon was known to be in the
area on this date. The principal basis for calling it a balloon was the observers'
description of "large, round and white and extremely large", and it was re-
marked that the instrument package on some balloon flights is capable of yield-
ing a radar return.
Discussion. To conclude that this was a "Possible Balloon" just on the basis
of the description, "large, round and white and extremely large", and thereby
to ignore the instantaneous course reversal and the inability of a 600-mph
jet to close with it over a period of 15 minutes seems unreasonable. We may
ignore questions of wind speeds at the altitude of the object and the F-94 be-
cause both would enjoy the same "tail-wind effect". In 15 minutes, the F-94
would be capable of moving 150 miles relative to any balloon at its altitude.
On the other hand, airborne radar sets of that period would scarcely detect
a target of cross-section represented by the kinds of instrument packages hung
on balloons of the Skyhook type, unless the aircraft were within something
like 10 or 15 miles of it. Yet it is stated that the F-94 was pursuing it under
radar contact for a time interval corresponding to an airpath ten times that
distance. Clearly, categorizing this unkown as a "balloon" was incompatible
with the reported details of the case.
On the other hand, there seems no reason to take seriously Menzel's evalua-
tion of this Odessa F-94 sighting (Ref. 25, p. 62). Menzel evidently had the full
file on this case, for he adds a few details beyond those in Ref. 7, details similar
to those in Ruppelt's account of the case (Ref. 5):
"Dim reddish-white lights seemed to be coming from 'windows', and no trail
or exh,aust was visible. The pilot attempted to intercept but the object performed
amazing feats—did a chandelle in front of the plane, rushed away, stopped, and
then made straight for the aircraft on a collision course at incredible speed."
He indicates that after the pilot banked to avoid collision he could not again
locate it visually, although another brief radar contact was obtained. Having
recounted those and other sighting details, Menzel then offers his interpre-
tations:
"In the east, Sirius was just rising over the horizon at the exact bearing of
the unknown object. Atmospheric refraction would have produced exactly the
phenomenon described. The scone atmospheric conditions that caused the mPrage
of the star would have caused anomalous radar returns."
Now stars just above the viewer's horizon do scintillate and do undergo
turbulent image-displacement, but one must consider quantitative matters. A
refractive excursion of a stellar image through even a few minutes of arc would
be an extremely large excursion. To suggest that a pilot would report that Sirius
did a chandelle is both to forget realities of astronomy and to do injustice to
the pilot. In fact, however. Menzel seems to have done his computations incor-
rectly, for it is easily ascertained that Sirius was not even in the Washington
skies at 7:15 p.m. PST on 12/10/52. It lay at about 10 degrees below the east-
ern horizon. A further quite unreasonable element of Menzel's explanation of
the Odessa case is his easy assertion that the radar returns were anomalous
results of the "atmospheric conditions". Aircraft flying at altitudes of 26,000
ft do not get ground returns on level flight as a result of propagation anomalies.
These extreme foreings of explanations recur throughout Menzel's writings;
one of thier common denominators is lack of attention to relevant quantitative
factors.
3. Case 33. Rosalia, Wash., February 6, 1953
Another official case-summary of interest here is cited by Menzel (Ref. 25,
p. 46). Keyhoe (Ref. 4), who studied the ease-file on it much earlier, gives
similar information, though in less detail. A B-36, bound for Spokane was
over Rosana, Wash., at 1:13 a.m. when, as Menzel describes it,

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