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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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His account emphasizes that the boundaries of the object(s) were definite and
sharp, not diffuse. Villela's account indicates that a total of six persons were
above-decks and saw this striking phenomenon. It is to be emphasized that, in
the estimated 10 seconds that this lasted, the object was moving below a cloud
deck that lay only about 1500 feet above the sea, so that, for the reported eleva-
tion angle of about 50 degrees, the slant range from observers to object was
perhaps of the order of 2000 ft. Villela had the subjective impression that the
egg-shaped initial form was about as big as a small airplane.
Di8C1488i012.—In a recent book aimed at showing that a majority of the most in-
teresting UFOs are an atmospheric-electrical plasma related to ball lightning,
Philip J. Klass (Ref. 39) cites the preceding case as a good example of the sort
of observation which he feels he can encompass in his "plasma-UFO" hypothesis.
To the extent that he treats only the breakup into two parts, he has some ob-
servational basis for trying to interpret this as something akin to ball lightning.
But almost at that point the similarity ends as far as meteorologically recog-
nized characteristics of ball lightning go. The highly structured nature of the
object and its rays, its size, its horizontal trajectory, its presence in a foggy area
with low stratiform clouds free of thunderstorm activity scarcely suggest any-
thing like ball lightning. Nor does this account suggest any meteoric phenomenon
at sub-cloud altitudes. I would regard this as just one more of a baffling array
of inexplicable aerial phenomena which span so wide a range of characteristics
that it is taxing to try to invent any single hypothesis to rationalize them all.
The full spectrum of UFO phenomena will, I predict, come as a shock to every
scientist who takes the necessary time to look into the wealth of reports accumu-
lated in various archives over the past two decades and more. Official assertions
to the effect that UFO reports in no way defy explanation in terms of present
scientific and technological knowledge are, in my opinion, entirely unjustified.
The Villela sighting seems a case in point. And meteorologists do see UFOs, as
the foregoing cases should suggest.
DON'T WEATHER BALLOONS AND RESEARCH BALLOONS ACCOUNT FOR MANY UFOS ?
Probably the most categorical statement ever made attributing UFO observa-
tions to balloons appeared in a Look magazine article by Richard Wilson in
February 1951, entitled, "A Nuclear Physicist Exposes Flying Saucers." Dr.
TTrner Liddel, then affiliated with the Navy cosmic ray research program using
the large Skyhook balloons, was quoted as saying, "There is not a single reliable
report of an observation (of a UFO) which is not attributable to the cosmic bal-
loons." When one considers the large number of UFO reports already on record
by 1951 in which reliable airlines pilots, military personnel, and other credible
witnesses have observed unidentified objects wholly unlike a high-altitude,
slowly drifting pear-shaped Skyhook balloon, that assertion appears very curious.
Nevertheless, that many persons have misidentified Skyhook balloons and even
the smaller weather balloons used in routine meteorological practice is unques-
tioned. A Skyhook seen against the twilight sky with back-illumination yields
a strangely luminous, hovering object which many observers, especially if
equipped with binoculars, were unprepared to identify correctly in the 1946-51
period when Skyhook operations were tied up with still-classified programs. To
this extent, Liddel's point is reasonable; but his sweeping assertion fails to fit
the facts, then or now.
Actually, in official case-evaluations, one finds Skyhook balloons invoked
relatively infrequently compared with "weather balloons." But in many of the
latter cases, the balloon hypothesis is strained beyond the breaking point. The
official criterion used (Ref. 7, p. 135) is extremely loose:
"If an object is reported near a balloon launch site within an hour after the
scheduled launch Unites, it is classed as a balloon"
with no specification of heights, shapes, distances, etc. Using such a criterion, it is
easy to see why so many "balloon" explanations figure in the official summaries.
There are even "balloon" UFOs whose speed, when inferred from the report, comes
out supersonic! The tiny candles or flashlight bulbs hung on pilot balloons for
nighttracking have been repeatedly made the basis for explanations of what wit-
nesses described as huge luminous objects at close range. Within only days of this
writing, I have checked out such a case near Tucson where four adult witnesses
saw, on July 2, 1968, a half-moon-shaped orange-red object hovering for several
minutes at what they estimated to be a few hundred feet above terrain and
perhaps a few miles away over open desert. They watched it tip once, right

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