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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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He estimated its speed to be in the neighborhood of 100 to 200 mph, yet no engine
noises of any kind were audible. It appeared dark against the bright cloud
background, but bright when it was seen against blue sky. No obvious explana-
tion in conventional terms seems to fit this sighting.
7. Many other sightings by both professional and amateur astronomers could
be listed. Vallee (Ref. 17) discusses in detail a November 8, 1957 observation
by J. L. Chapuis of Toulouse Observatory in France of what appeared through
a small telescope to be a yellowish, elliptical body, with distinct outlines, leaving
a short trail behind it. It was seen by other observers in three separate locations,
executed maneuvers entirely excluding meteoric origin, and was regarded as an
unexplainable phenomenon by all of the witnesses. Hall (Ref. 10) lists nine
examples of astronomer sightings of unidentified objects, several of which are
quite striking. Ruppelt (Ref. 5) remarks that an astronomer working under con-
tract to the official UFO investigatory program interviewed 45 American astrono-
mers during the summer of 1952, of whom five (11 per cent) had seen what they
regarded to be UFOs. Although the sample is small, that percentage is well
above the population percentage who say they have seen UFOs, which suggests
that perhaps astronomers may sight more UFOs than they report as such. In-
deed, with the recent publication of Ref. 7, further interesting information on
that 1952 poll is now at hand. The contract astronomer wrote at that time (Ref. 7,
Rept. 8), ". . . certainly another contributing factor to their desire not to talk
about these things is their overwhelming fear of publicity. One headline in the
nation's papers to the effect that 'Astronomer Sees Flying Saucer' would be
enough to brand the astronomer as questionable among his colleagues." Unfortu-
nately, we scientists are by no means as open-minded and fearlessly independent
as we are sometimes pictured. It is often quite difficult to persuade a scientist
to let his confidential report of a UFO sighting become a fully open UFO report;
and my own experience suggests that perhaps 'astronomers, as a group, are just
a bit more sensitive on this score than other scientists. At any event, perhaps
the above-cited cases will suggest that some astronomers have seen unidentified
flying objects.
METEOROLOGISTS AND WEATHER OBSERVERS LOOK AT THE SKIES FREQUENTLY.
WHY DON'T THEY SEE UFOS ?
1. Case 26. Richmond, Va., April 1947
To begin an answer to that rhetorical question, we might consider an observa-
tion made by a weather observer at the Richmond, Va., U.S. Weather Bureau
station, about two months before the first national publicity concerning UFOs.
Walter A. Minczewski, whom I located at the same Weather Bureau office where
he made the sighting in 1947, was making a pilot balloon observation, when
he spotted a silvery object that entered the field of his theodolite (which was
trained on the balloon he had released). In the account that Minczewski sent
me, he stated that "the bottom was flat and the top was slightly dome-shaped":
and when he tried to see it with naked eye, he could not spot it. (Typical pilot
balloon theodolites have magnifications of about 20 to 25, and angular fields
that are usually about a degree across.) It was a "clear bright morning" when
he spotted the object, and it lay to his NNE at an elevation of about
45 degrees. Whether Minczewski really saw the upper surface or formed his
mental impressions without realizing that the theodolite may have inverted the
image is now unclear, and my questioning did not settle that point.
Discussion.—A report of this sighting is in the official files, a circumstance
Which greatly surprised Minczewski, since he had discussed it only with his fel-
low workers. In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like
it. Clearly, the probability of an object crossing the small angular field of a
meteorological theodolite is quite low, if only chance were involved here. He
tried to track it but lost it, due to its high angular velocity, after about five or
six seconds, he recalled. No obvious conventional explanation suggests itself
for this early sighting.
2. Case 27. Yuma, Ariz., February 4, 1953
Weather Bureau observer S. H. Brown was tracking a pilot balloon at 6000
ft over Yuma at 1:50 p.m. MST on 2/4/53 when first one and then a second
unidentified object moved across his theodolite field, somewhat as in the pre-
ceding case. I obtained an account of this sighting from V. B. Cotten, Meteorolo-
gist-in-Charge at the Yuma station. The full account is too long for recapitula-
tion here. Both objects appeared to be of the order of a minute of arc in diameter

Cases discussed

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