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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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orders of magnitude larger than have ever been observed yield reflectivities (at
the kind of near-normal incidence involved in Tombaugh's sighting) that are only
a tiny fraction of one per cent (Ref. 36). In fact, I see no way of accounting for
the Tombaugh observation in terms of known meteorological or astronomical
phenomena.
2. Case 21. Ft. Sumner, New Mexico, July 10, 1947
A midday sighting by a University of New Mexico meteoriticist, Dr. Lincoln
La Paz, and members of his family was summarized by Life magazine years ago
(Ref. 37) without identifying La Paz's name. Bloecher (Ref. 8) gives more details
and notes that this is officially an Unidentified. (At 4:47 p.m. MST on 7/10/47,
four members of the La Paz family nearly simultaneously noted "a curious bright
object almost motionless" low on the western horizon, near a cloudbank. The
object was described as ellipsoidal, whitish, and having sharply-outlined edges. It
wobbled a bit as it hovered stationary just above the horizon, then moved up,
wards, passed behind clouds and re-emerged farther north in a time interval
which La Paz estimated to be so short as to call for speeds in excess of conven-
tional aircraft speeds. It passed in front of dark clouds and seemed self-luminous
by contrast. It finally disappeared amongst the clouds. La Paz estimated it to be
perhaps 20 miles away, judging from the clouds involved; and he put its length
at perhaps 100-200 ft.
Discussion. This observation is attributed by Menzel (Ref. 24, p. 29) to "some
sort of horizontal mirage, perhaps one of a very brilliant cloud shining like silver
in the sunlight—a cloud that was itself invisible because of the darker clouds
in the foreground." As nearly as I am able to understand that explanation, it
seems to be based on the notion that mirage-refraction can neatly superimpose
the image of some distant object (here his "brilliant cloud") upon some nearer
object in the middle distance (here his "darker clouds"). That is a fallacious
notion. If any optical distortions did here bring into view some distant bright
cloud, it would not be possible to receive along immediately adjacent optical
paths an image of the intermediate clouds. Furthermore, the extremely unstable
lapse rates typical of the southwestern desert areas under afternoon conditions
produce inferior mirages, not superior mirages of the looming type here invoked
by Menzel. Rapid displacements, vertically and horizontally, are not typical of
mirage phenomena. Hence Menzel's' explanations cannot be accepted for this
sighting.
3. Case 22. Harborside, Me., July 3, 1947
An observation by an amateur astronomer, John F. Cole, reported to official
investigative offices near the beginning of the period of general public awareness
of the UFO problem, involves an erratically maneuvering cluster of about 10
objects, seen near 2:30 p.m. EDT on 7/3/47 on the eastern shore of Penobscot Bay.
Hearing a roar overhead, Cole looked up to see the objects milling about like a
moving swarm of bees as they traveled northwestward at a seemingly high speed,
as nearly as he could judge size and distance. The objects were light-colored,
and no wings could be discerned on most, although two appeared to have some
sort of darker projections somewhat resembling wings. In 10-15 seconds they
passed out of sight.
Discussion. This is one of several dozen cases admitted to the Unidentified
category in one of the earliest official reports on UFOs (Ref. 6). I have tried,
unsuccessfully, to locate J. F. Cole. An account of the case is given by Bloecher
(Ref. 8). It might be remarked that "swarming bee" UFO observations have
cropped up repeatedly over the years, and from all over the world.
4. Case 23. Ogra, Latvia, July 26,1965
An astronomer whom I know recently toured a number of observatories in the
USSR, and brought back the word that a majority of Russian astronomers have
paid little attention to Russian UFO reports (details of which are quite similar
to American UFO reports, my colleagues established), a frequently-cited reason
being that the American astronomer, Menzel, had given adequate optical explana-
tions of all such sightings. I must agree with Dr. Felix Zigel who, writing on
the UFO problem in Soviet Life (Ref. 38), remarked that Menzel's explanation
in terms of atmospheric optics "does not hold water." It would, for example, be
straining meteorological optics to try to account in such terms for a sighting by
three Latvian astronomers whose report Zigel cites in his article. At 9:35 p.m. on
7/26/65 while studying noctilucent clouds, R. Vitolniek and two colleagues vis-
ually observed a starlike object drifting slowly westward. Under 8-power binoc-

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