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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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WHY DON'T ASTRONOMERS EVER SEE UFO'S ?
I have had this question put to me by many persons, including a number of
astronomers. Once I was speaking to a group from an important laboratory of
astronomy when the director asked why astronomers never see them. In the
room,'among his staff, were two astronomers who had seen unconventional ob-
jects while doing observing but who had 'asked that the information they had
given me about their sightings be kept confidential. I understand such strictures,
but some of them make things a bit difficult. This phenomenon of professional per-
sons seeing unidentified objects and then being extremely loath to admit it is far
more common than one might guess. After hearing of an evidently very significant
sighting by a prominent physical scientist who was hiking in some western moun-
tains when he spotted a metallic-looking disc, examined it with binoculars, and
saw it 'shoot up into the air (according to my second-hand report from a profes-
sional colleague), I tried for months to secure a direct report of it from him;
he was unwilling to discuss it openly with me. NICAP has had reports from
prominent executives in large technical corporations who insisted that, just be-
cause of their positions, their names'not be used publicly. Similar instances could
be cited almost ad infinitum. The very types of witnesses whose testimony would
carry greatest credence often prove to be the most reluctant to admit their sight-
ings; they seem to feel they have the most to lose. Within a day of this writing,
I 'spoke to a veteran airlines pilot about a sighting in which he was involved
'about a decade ago. After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided
he'd never report another one. I predict that'social psychologists'are going to have
a field day,in a few years, studying the "pluralistic ignorance" that led so many
persons to conceal so many 'sightings for so long.
- Returning, however, to the question of why astronomers never see UFOs, a
relevant quantitative consideration needs to be cited at once. According to a re-
cent count, the membership of the American Astronomical Society is about 1800;
by contrast, our country has'about 350,000 law-enforcement officers. With 'almost
200 times as'many police, sheriffs' deputies, state troopers, etc., 'as there are pro-
fessional 'astronomers, it is no 'surprise that many more UFO reports come
from the law-enforcement officers than from the astronomers. Furthermore, the
notion that astronomers spend most 'of their time scanning the skies is quite in-
correct; the average patrolman 'almost certainly does more random looking
about than the 'average professional astronomer.
Despite these consideration's, there are on record many sightings from as-
tronomers, particularly the'amateurs, who far outnumber the professionals. A few
examples will be considered.
1. Case 20. Las Cruces, N.M., August 20, 1949
A good account of the 'sighting by Dr. Clyde Tombaugh, discoverer 'of the planet
Pluto, is given by Menzel (Ref. 25). From my own discussions with Dr. Tom-
baugh, I confirmed the main outlines of this incident. At about 10:00 p.m. on
8/20/49, he, his wife, and his mother-in-law were in the yard of his Las Oruces
home, admiring what Tombaugh described as a sky of rare transparency, when
Tombaugh, looking almost directly towards zenith, spotted an array of pale
yellow lights moving rapidly across the sky towards the southeast. He called
them to the attention of the two others, who saw them just before they dis-
appeared halfway to the horizon. The entire array subtended an angle which Tom-
baugh put at about one degree, and it took only 'a few seconds to cross 50 or 60
degrees of sky. The 'array comprised six "windowlike" rectangles of light, formed
into a symmetric pattern; they moved too fast for aircraft, too slowly for a
meteor, and made no sound. Menzel quotes Tombaugh as saying, "I have never
seen anything like it before or since, and I have spent a lot of time where the
night sky could be seen well."
Discussion.—Dr. Menzel explains this phenomenon as resulting from reflection
of lights from the ground, possibly "the lighted windows of a house" reflected
by an inversion or haze layer aloft. The movement he explains as resulting from
a ripple on the haze layer. Such an "explanation" is not merely difficult to under-
stand; it is incredible. For an "inversion layer" to produce such a near-normal
reflection of window lights would demand a discontinuity of refractive index so
enormously large compared with anythinc, known to occur in our atmosphere
as to make it utterly out of the question. However, it has been just such casual
ad hoc explanations a's this by which Menzel has, in his writings, used meteorolog-
ical 'optics to rationalize case after case with no attention to crucial quantitative
details. It is a simple matter to show that even inversions of intensity many

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