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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
58
terpreted
natural
phenomenon.
That
it
hovered
within
a
city
of
moderate
size
with
only
a
total
of
two
declared
and
two
other
undeclared
witnesses
is
not
entirely
difficult
to
understand
when
one has
interviewed
large
numbers
of
witnesses
for
whom
the
likelihood
of
ridicule
was
an
almost
sufficient
deterrentto
open
reporting.
4.
Case
19.
Portland,
Oregon, July
4,
1947
In
the
course of
cross-checking
a
sampling
of
the
1947
cases
that
went
into
Bloecher's
study
(Ref. 8),
the
numerous
daytime
sightings
in
central
Portland
on
7/4/47
seemed
worth
checking,
especially
because
many
of
the
reports
came
from
police
and
harbor
patrolmen.
Here
again,
we
deal
with
a
case
for
which
there
are
so
many
relevant
details
available
that
space
precludes
an
adequate
summary
(see Ref.
8).
I
spoke
with
Sheriff's
Deputy Fred
Krives
who,
along
with
several
other
deputies,
had
seen
some
of the
many
objects
over Portland
from
the
Court
House
across
the
Columbia
River
in
Vancouver,
Wash.
Krives
recalled
that over
half
a
dozen
deputies
were
outside
looking
at
what
they
esti-
mated
to
be about
20
disc
-shaped
objects
in several
subgroups
racing across
the
sky
at
an
estimated height
of
perhaps
1000
ft.,
heading
to
the
southwest.
Both
from
contemporary
press
accounts
and
my
own
checks,
it
became
evident
that
more
than one
formation
of
discs
flew
over Portland that
day.
Harbor
Patrol
Capt.
K.
A.
Prehn,
whom
I
located
by
telephone,
told
me
that
he
had
been
called
outside
by
another
officer
who
spotted
objects
moving
overhead
towards
the
south.
Their
speed
seemed
comparable
to
that of
aircraft,
their outlines
were
quite
sharp,
and
they
looked
metallic
as
they
flashed
in
the sun.
They
occasional-
ly
wobbled,
and
their
path
seemed
to
be
slightly
irregular.
Other
officers
with
whom
I
spoke
sighted
discs
from
other parts
of the Portland
area; one
of
them,
Officer
Walter
Lissy,
emphasized
that
he
recalled
them
as
zig-zagging
along
at
"terrific
speed."
Another
officer,
Earl
Patterson,
told
me
of
seeing
a
single
object
that
"made
sudden
90
-degree
turns with
no
difficulty."
I
also
obtained
letter
accounts
from
others in
the Portland area
who
saw
disc
-like
objects
that
day.
Here
was
an
early instance
of
unidentified
objects
maneuvering
in
full
daylight
over
a
major
city.
Diseussion.—The
July
4,
1947
sightings
(for
which
Bloecher gathered
press
accounts for
more
than
80
from
various parts
of the
U.S.)
were
made
the
sub-
ject
of
a
good
deal of
press
ridicule,
as
Bloecher's
study
makes
clear.
However,
after
interviewing
a
number
of the
witnesses
to
the Portland
sighting
concern-
ing
their
recollections
of
what
they
saw
that
day,
I
see
no
basis
at
all
for
reject-
ing
these
sightings.
The
official
explanation for the Portland
observations
is
"Radar
Chaff,"
based
evidently
(Ref.
6)
on
a
report
that
some
aircraft
had
madea
chaff
-drop in that area
sometime on
that day. "Chaff"
is
metal
-foil
cut
into
short
strips,
typically
a few
inches in
length,
ejected
from
military aircraft
to
jam
radar.
The
strips float
down
through
the
air,
intercepting
and
returning
the
radar
pulses.
To
suggest that
numerous
police
officers
would
confuse
strips
of
foil,
so small
as
to
be
invisible
beyond
a few
hundred
yards,
with
maneuver-ing
disc
-like
objects
seems
unreasonable.
I
doubt
that
anyone
who
had
talked
directly
to
these
officers
could
have
seriously
proposed
such
an
explanation.
Herein
lies
a
difficulty:
In an
overwhelming
majority of
cases,
official
explana-
tions
have been
conceived
without
any
direct
witness
-interviewing
on
the part ofthose
responsible
for
conceiving
the
explanations.
6. Perhaps, for
present purposes,
the
foregoing cases
will
suffice
to indicate
that there
have
been
significant
UFO
incidents
in
cities.
Many
other
examples
could
easily
be
cited.
Elsewhere (Ref.
2)
I
have
discussed
my
interviews withWitnesses
in
a
case
at
Beverly, Mass.,
on
the evening of April 22, 1966,
where
three adult
women
and
subsequently
a
total
of
more
than
half
a
dozen
adults (in-
cluding
two
police
officers)
observed three
round
lighted objects
hovering near
a
school building in the middle of Beverly.
At
one
early stage of the
sightings,
one
of the
discs
moved
rapidly
over the three
women,
hovering
above one of
them
at
an
altitude
of only
a few
tens of feet
and
terrifying
the hapless
women
until
she
bolted.
This
case
was
quite
thoroughly checked
by Mr. Raymond E.
Fowler,
one
of
NICAP's most
able investigators,
who
has
studied
numerous
other
UFO
incidents in the
New
England
area.
I
interviewed witnesses in
a most
interesting sighting in
Omaha
in
January
1966,
where a
stubby cigar-shaped object
had
been seen
by a number
of persons
on the northwest side of the
city.
Urban
UFO
cases in other parts of the world
are also
a
matter of at
least journalistic if
not yet
scientific
record.
To sum
up,
though non-urban reports are
definitely
more numerous, urban reports
do indeedexist.

Cases discussed

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