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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 18 …Some of these statements which lead to mis- conceptions are: —(1) Only UFO "buffs" report UFO…
  • p. 19 …One great misconception is that only UFO buffs report UFO's; quite the opposite is the…
  • p. 25 …saw their very impressive and sur- prising UFO files, the pattern of which is entirely different…
  • p. 39 …files and modes of operation of both private and official (i.e., Project Bluebook) UFO investigative…
  • p. 41 …Misinter- preted natural phenomena (Hypothesis 3) do explain many sincerely -submitted UFO reports; but, as I…
  • p. 45 …It summarizes about 750 UFO cases in the NICAP files up to about
  • p. 46 …Reference 7 is another now -accessible source of extremely significant UFO documentation; it is unfortunate that…
  • p. 54 …Longview, Wash., July 8, 1949 Many of the UFO cases I am citing are drawn intentionally…
  • p. 60 54 terrestrial hypothesis for UFOs, incomprehensibility must be expected as almost inevitable. Hence there is more…
  • p. 63 …NICAP files. The article, by Post reporter Jimmie Woods, represents one of those rare UFO feature…
  • p. 68 …5) remarks that an astronomer working under con- tract to the official UFO investigatory program interviewed…
  • p. 70 …UFO sightings by meteorologists could be extended very con- siderably by drawing on my file of…
  • p. 72 …the UFO problem in the ensuing two-year period. Many details from the official file on…
  • p. 75 …In my files are many other "balloon" cases from the past twenty years, cases that ought…
  • p. 76 …The third target was spotted visually by myself," Hemphill's signed statement in the case -file…
  • p. 78 …25), who evidently drew his information from the official files. Ruppelt (Ref. 5) states that when…
  • p. 79 …unknowns in official files to be ignored. A famous case in UFO annals involved a B…
  • p. 86 …explanations for classic UFO cases that have been made in the official files in the last…
  • p. 91 …Official file on October 15, 1948 Fukuoka case, Project Bluebook. 43. Melbourne (Australia) Sun, December 16…
  • p. 120 …During that night, and several succeeding nights, there were many reports of UFO's over northern…
  • p. 128 …THE UFO PROPULSION PROBLEM By way of introducing the propulsion problem of UFO's, I will…
  • p. 185 179 rod N.T.TuDE tOURIE 3• MOTION OF UFO SYSTIM a..„. — 73 2.3 2…
  • p. 206 …for a UFO. This viewpoint is absolutely nonsense and the Air Force files bear witness to…
  • p. 207 …But such behavior does not imply, as the UFO addicts argue, the presence of an intelligence…
  • p. 208 …He watches the UFO for a minute or two until it finally disappears. He cannot be…
  • p. 218 …UFO presence. This can be done with existing information. Up- date and upgrade the files with…
  • p. 224 …claimed to have observed a UFO. Interestingly enough the official files con- tain fewer than 12…
  • p. 239 …Indeed, at present the scientific study of the UFO problem is greatly hampered by the circumstance…
  • p. 244 …The dotted line represents "re- liable" sightings in the files of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization…
  • p. 245 …Many radar sightings of UFO's are on file. In a few cases, a UFO has…
  • p. 247 …He states that he has on file more than 300 UFO sightings prior to the 20th…
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In fact, UFO sightings with equally peculiar phenomenology are so much a
part of the total record that this Hollywood incident is not as unparalleled as it
might first seem. In Hobard, Tasmania, I interviewed an electrical engineer who,
along with a fellow engineer also employed by the Tasmanian Hydroelectric
Commission, observed phenomena occurring in broad daylight over and near the
River Derwent at Risdon that have the same "absurd" nature that one meets
in the Hollywood case. The wife of a Texas rancher described to me an incident
she witnessed in Juarez, Mexico, with about the same absurdity-quotient. We
simply do not understand what we are dealing with in these UFO phenomena;
my present opinion is that we must simply concede that, in the Hollywood case,
we are confronted with decidedly odd UFO phenomena, in a decidedly urban
locale.
There appears to have been no official investigation of these striking events
(Ref. 35), and local newspapers gave it only the briefest attention. In the New
York City case cited above, the particulars were phoned to a large New York
paper, but the paper was not interested, and no account was reported. Similarly
in the 2/4/68 Redlands case, the local papers felt it warranted only an extremely
brief article. This pattern is repeated over and over again; newspapermen have
been led to believe that UFOs are really no more than occasional feature-story
material. On rare occasions, for reasons not too clear to students of the UFO
problem, some one case like the Michigan incident of 1966 will command national
headlines for a day or two and then be consigned to journalistic limbo. This, in
company with scientific rejection of the problem, plus official positions on the
matter have combined to keep the public almost entirely unaware of the real
situation with respect to frequency and nature of UFO incidents. For emphasis,
let me repeat that I do not see design in that, nothing I construe as any well-
planned attempt to keep us all uninformed for some sinister or protective reason.
The longer I reflect on the history of the past handling of the UFO problem, the
more I can see how one thing led to another until we have reached the intolerable
present situation that so urgently calls for change.
3. Case 18. Baytown, Texas, July 18, 1966
Baytown, Texas, on Galveston Bay, has a population near 30,000. Several
persons evidently saw an interesting object there at about 9:00 a.m. on 7/18/66.
My original source on this case was an article that appeared in the 10/8/66
Houston Post from NICAP files. The article, by Post reporter Jimmie Woods,
represents one of those rare UFO feature stories in which fact is well blended
with human interest, as I found when I subsequently interviewed one of the
principal witnesses, W. T. Jackson, at whose service station he and assistant
Kelly Dikeman made the sighting. Both were inside the station when Jackson
spotted the object hovering motionless about 100 yards away. (The Post said
1000 yards, but Jackson pointed out that Woods interviewed him while he was
waiting on customers at the station and the reporter didn't get all of it correct.)
Jackson explained to me that the object "lay right over the Dairy Queen."
He described it as a white object that "looked like two saucers turned together
with a row of square windows in between", and he thought it might have been
50 feet in diameter. He called Dikeman over, and they both looked at it for a
few seconds and then simultaneously started for the door to get a better look.
Almost at that moment it started moving westward. Dikeman was at the door
before Jackson and had the last view of it as it passed over a water tower,
beyond buildings and a refinery and was gone, "faster than any airplane." Jack-
son described it as pure white, and definitely not spinning, since he saw clearly
the features that he termed "windows." Jackson kept the incident to himself
for a time; when it got out, two nurses who were unwilling to give him their
names because "they didn't want to be laughed at" stopped at his station and
told him they had seen it from another part of Baytown.
Discussicm.—"Swamp gas" explanations were then still featured in press dis-
cussions of UFOs, and Jackson volunteered the comment that there are no
swamps nearby and that it was "too high for any gas formations" he knew of.
"It damned sure wasn't no fireball," Jackson told the Post reporter, and also
commented, "Feller, when you set there and count the windows it ain't no damn
reflection." I received similar salty commentary on various hypotheses when I
spoke with Jackson. No sound was heard, yet, as Jackson put it, "if it had been
any kind of jet, we'd have been deafened." As in many other cases, a distinctly
machine-like configuration, definite outlines, secondary "structural" features here
termed "windows", add up to a description that does not suggest any misin-

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