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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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In fact, UFO sightings with equally peculiar phenomenology are so much a
part of the total record that this Hollywood incident is not as unparalleled as it
might first seem. In Hobard, Tasmania, I interviewed an electrical engineer who,
along with a fellow engineer also employed by the Tasmanian Hydroelectric
Commission, observed phenomena occurring in broad daylight over and near the
River Derwent at Risdon that have the same "absurd" nature that one meets
in the Hollywood case. The wife of a Texas rancher described to me an incident
she witnessed in Juarez, Mexico, with about the same absurdity-quotient. We
simply do not understand what we are dealing with in these UFO phenomena;
my present opinion is that we must simply concede that, in the Hollywood case,
we are confronted with decidedly odd UFO phenomena, in a decidedly urban
locale.
There appears to have been no official investigation of these striking events
(Ref. 35), and local newspapers gave it only the briefest attention. In the New
York City case cited above, the particulars were phoned to a large New York
paper, but the paper was not interested, and no account was reported. Similarly
in the 2/4/68 Redlands case, the local papers felt it warranted only an extremely
brief article. This pattern is repeated over and over again; newspapermen have
been led to believe that UFOs are really no more than occasional feature-story
material. On rare occasions, for reasons not too clear to students of the UFO
problem, some one case like the Michigan incident of 1966 will command national
headlines for a day or two and then be consigned to journalistic limbo. This, in
company with scientific rejection of the problem, plus official positions on the
matter have combined to keep the public almost entirely unaware of the real
situation with respect to frequency and nature of UFO incidents. For emphasis,
let me repeat that I do not see design in that, nothing I construe as any well-
planned attempt to keep us all uninformed for some sinister or protective reason.
The longer I reflect on the history of the past handling of the UFO problem, the
more I can see how one thing led to another until we have reached the intolerable
present situation that so urgently calls for change.
3. Case 18. Baytown, Texas, July 18, 1966
Baytown, Texas, on Galveston Bay, has a population near 30,000. Several
persons evidently saw an interesting object there at about 9:00 a.m. on 7/18/66.
My original source on this case was an article that appeared in the 10/8/66
Houston Post from NICAP files. The article, by Post reporter Jimmie Woods,
represents one of those rare UFO feature stories in which fact is well blended
with human interest, as I found when I subsequently interviewed one of the
principal witnesses, W. T. Jackson, at whose service station he and assistant
Kelly Dikeman made the sighting. Both were inside the station when Jackson
spotted the object hovering motionless about 100 yards away. (The Post said
1000 yards, but Jackson pointed out that Woods interviewed him while he was
waiting on customers at the station and the reporter didn't get all of it correct.)
Jackson explained to me that the object "lay right over the Dairy Queen."
He described it as a white object that "looked like two saucers turned together
with a row of square windows in between", and he thought it might have been
50 feet in diameter. He called Dikeman over, and they both looked at it for a
few seconds and then simultaneously started for the door to get a better look.
Almost at that moment it started moving westward. Dikeman was at the door
before Jackson and had the last view of it as it passed over a water tower,
beyond buildings and a refinery and was gone, "faster than any airplane." Jack-
son described it as pure white, and definitely not spinning, since he saw clearly
the features that he termed "windows." Jackson kept the incident to himself
for a time; when it got out, two nurses who were unwilling to give him their
names because "they didn't want to be laughed at" stopped at his station and
told him they had seen it from another part of Baytown.
Discussicm.—"Swamp gas" explanations were then still featured in press dis-
cussions of UFOs, and Jackson volunteered the comment that there are no
swamps nearby and that it was "too high for any gas formations" he knew of.
"It damned sure wasn't no fireball," Jackson told the Post reporter, and also
commented, "Feller, when you set there and count the windows it ain't no damn
reflection." I received similar salty commentary on various hypotheses when I
spoke with Jackson. No sound was heard, yet, as Jackson put it, "if it had been
any kind of jet, we'd have been deafened." As in many other cases, a distinctly
machine-like configuration, definite outlines, secondary "structural" features here
termed "windows", add up to a description that does not suggest any misin-

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