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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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two
incidents
occurred just
after
11
:00 p.m.
on two
successive nights,
Friday
2/5/60
and
Saturday
2/6/60,
over
or
near
the
intersection
of
Sunset Blvd.
and
La
Brea
Ave.,
i.e.,
in
the heart
of
downtown
Hollywood.
I
have
gone
over
the
site
area
with
one
of the
principal investigators
of
these
incidents,
Mrs.
Idabel
Epperson
of
LANS,
have examined
press
accounts
(Ref.
35)
that
dealt
(very
superficially)
with
the
event,
and
have
studied
correspondence
between
the
LANS
investigators
and
official
agencies
concerning
this
case.
The
phenomenol-
ogy
is
far
too
complex
to report
in
full detail
here;
even
the
21
-page
single-
spaced
LANS
report
was
only
a
digest
of
results
of
all
the
NICAP
witness
-
interviewing
carried
out
to substantiate
the
events.
The
LANS
report
sum-
marizes
object
-descriptions
given
by
eight
witnesses
Friday
night
and
eighteen
witnesses
Saturday
night,
several
of
them
police
officers.
Cars were
stopped
bumper
-to
-bumper,
according
to
employees
of
several
busi-
nesses
on
the Sunset
-La
Brea
intersection
in
the
midst
of the
main
events,
with
people
gaping at
the
object
overhead.
Persons
on
hotel
and
apartment
rooftops
were
out
looking
at the
bright
"cherry
-red,
circular
light"
that
figured
in both
incidents.
On
the
two
successive nights,
the
red
object
first
appeared
at about
11
:15
p.m.,
and
on
both
nights
it
stopped
and
hovered
motionless
for
periods
of
about
10
minutes at
a
time.
The
angular
estimates
of the
size
of the red
light
varied,
but
seemed
to
suggest
a
value of
one-fourth to one-third
of
the lunar
diameter,
say 5-10
minutes
of
arc.
Almost
all
agreed that the
light
was
sharp
-
edged
rather
than hazy
or fuzzy.
The
usual
witness
-variances
are
exhibited
in
the
total
of
about
two
dozen
persons
interviewed,
e.g.,
some
thought
the
light
pulsated,
others
recalled
it
as
steady,
etc.,
but
the
common
features, consistent
throughout almost
all
the
testimony,
bespeak
a
quite
unusual
phenomenon.
On
Friday
night,
the red
light
was
first
seen
directly
overhead at Sunset
and
La
Brea.
Two
service
-station
attendants
at
that
intersection,
Jerry
Darr
and
Charles
Walker,
described to
LANS
interviewers
how,
".
..
hundreds
of
people
saw
it—everybody
was
looking"
as
the
light
hovered
for
at
least
five
minutesover
a
busy
drive-in
there.
Ken
Meyer,
another
service station
attendant a
third
of
a
mile
to
the north, estimated
it
hovered for
about
10
minutes.
Harold
Sher-
man,
his wife,
and
two
others
watched
it
in
the
later
phases
(also
described
by
the
above
-cited
witnesses)
as
it
resumed
motion very
slowly
eastward.
After
proceeding east
for
a
distance
that
witnesses
roughly
estimated
at
a
block
or
two,
it
veered
southeastward
and
passed
out
of
sight.
(It
is
not
clear
whether
it
was
occulted
by
buildings
for
some
witnesses,
or
diminished in
intensity,
or
actually
passed
off
into
the
distance.)
No
sound
was
heard
over
street-noise
background.
The
following
night,
an
object
which
appeared
to
be
the
same,
to those several
witnesses
who
saw
both
events,
again
showed up
overhead,
this
time
first
seen
about
one
block
farther east
than
on
Friday
night.
Triangulation
based
on
estimates
of angular
elevations
as
seen
from
various
locations
was
used
to
approximate
the height
above ground.
LANS
concluded
that,
when
first
seen,
it
lay
about 500-600
ft.
above
the
intersection
of
Sunset
and
Sycamore.
A
number
of witnesses observed
it
hovering motionless in that
position
for
about
10
min-
utes.
Then a
loud
explosion
and
brilliant
bluish
-white
flash
was
emitted
by
the
object,
the
noise described
by
all
witnesses
as
unlike
any
sonic
boom
or ordinaryexplosion
they
had
ever heard.
The
sound
alerted
witnesses
as
far
away
as
Curson
aNd
Hollywood
Blvd.,
i.e.,
Tom
Burns and two
friends
who
asked
LANS
interviewers
not
to
use
their
names. Condensing very
greatly
here the
descrip-
tions
given
to
the
interviewers
by
independent
witnesses
who
viewed
the "explo-
sion"
from
various
locations scattered
over
a
circle
of
about
a
1
-mile
radius
yields
a summary
-description
as
follows:
What
had,
just before the
explosion,
looked
much
"like
a
big
red
Christmas
ball
hanging
there in the sky",
was
suddenly
the
source of
a
flash
that extended
downward and
to
the west,
lighting
up
the
ground
all
around one
interviewed
(Soe
Rosi)
on
La
Brea Ave.
A
"mushroom
-
shaped
cloud",
with
coloration
that impressed
all
who saw
it,
emerged upward
and
soon
dissipated.
Concurrently,
as the red
light extinguished,
an
object de-
scribed
by
most, but not
all,
witnesses
as long
and
tubular shot
upwards. Angularestimates implied
an
object
a number
of tens of
feet long,
70
ft.
from Harold
Sherman's rough
estimates.
Clearly,
it is
difficult
to explain
how an
object of such
size
could
have
materialized
from a
light
at 500
ft.
elevation
and
subtending
an
angle of only
10
minutes of
arc, unless
it
had been there
all
along, unseen because of thebrilliance
of the red light
beneath
it.
Or
perhaps the angular
-size
estimates are
In
error.
Some
witnesses followed only the tubular ascending
object, others
saw

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