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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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but also Jay W. Galbraith, operator of the airport, who, with his wife, watched
the object and Robert G. Butler, another of those at the airport. As Harris
attempted to close in, he got to a minimal distance that he thought might have
been approximately two or three miles from the object, when it abruptly rose
vertically by about 1000 ft, a maneuver confirmed by the ground witnesses. They
indicated to me that it took only a second or perhaps less to ascend. Just before
the abrupt rise, Harris had been viewing the object on an essentially dead-level
line of sight, with distant Mt. Nebo behind it, a significant feature of the case,
as will be brought out in a moment.
Before Harris could close his distance much more, the object began moving
off to the southeast at a speed well above his light-plane top speed. It was soon
an estimated ten miles or so away, but Harris continued his attempt to close.
However, after seeming to hover a short time in its new location, it began rising
and moving westward, at an extremely rapid speed, and passed out of sight aloft
to the southwest in only a few seconds. Some, but not all of the ground witnesses,
observed this final fast climb-out, I was told. Military jets were called, but the
object had gone before they arrived.
Both Harris and the ground observers using binoculars attested to lack of
wings or tail, and to the biconvex side view. Harris said he had the impression
its surface resembled "sand-blasted aluminum," but his closest view was about
2-3 miles away, and its estimated size was put at about 50-60 ft diameter (and
only a tenth as thick), so the impression of surface texture must be regarded as
uncertain. All witnesses confirmed that the object "wobbled" during its hover-
ing. Jay Galbraith said that, when Harris' Mooney Mark 20A was only a speck,
they could see the disc rather easily by naked eye, suggesting that its size may
have been substantially larger than Harris' estimated 50 ft. Galbraith's recol-
lection of its final departure was that it climbed at a very steep angle, perhaps
within about 20° of the vertical, he thought. Butler also recalled the final
departure and stressed that it was a surprisingly steep_ climb-out, quite beyond
any known jet speed. All remarked on 10/2/61 being a beautifully clear day.
Discussion.—Once again we deal with observed performance characteristics
far beyond anything of which we have present knowledge: a wingless device
that can hover, shoot straight up, and move fast enough to pass out of sight in a
matter of a few seconds does not correspond to any known terrestrial craft. The
official explanation was originally that Harris saw Venus. From astrnomical
data, one finds that Venus was in the Utah sky at noon in early October, but lay
in the southwest, whereas everyone's line of sight to the object lay to the
southeast. Furthermore, Harris' statement that at one stage he viewed the disc
against a distant mountain would contradict such an explanation. Finally, it is
well known to astronomers that Venus, even at peak brilliance, is not very easily
spotted in daytime, whereas he had no difficulty relocating it repeatedly as he
flew. Menzel (Ref. 25) proposed that it was merely a sundog that Harris and
the others were observing, and this was subsequently adopted as the official
explanation. But sundogs (parhelia), for well-known reasons, occur at elevation
angles equal to or slightly greater than the sun, which lay about 40° above the
southern horizon at noon in Salt Lake that day. Such a solar position would
imply that a sundog might have lain to the southeast (22° to the left of the sun),
but at an elevation angle that completely fails to match Harris' dead-level view-
ing (against a distant mountain, to further embarrass the sundog hypothesis).
Finally, to check the witness' statements about cloud-free skies, I checked with
the Salt Lake City Weather Bureau office, and their logs showed completely
clear skies and 40 miles visibility. Sundogs cannot occur without ice crystal
clouds present. The only weather balloon released that morning was sent up
at 10:00 a.m.; but in any event, one would have to write off almost all of the
observed details to proposp that this incident was a misinterpretation of a
weather balloon. As I see it the 10/2/61 Salt Lake City sighting is just one more
of the hundreds of very well-observed cases of machine-like craft exhibiting
"flight performance" far beyond the state and present-day technology.
4. Case 12 Larson AFB, Moses Lake, Washington, January 8, 1953
NICAP's recent publication of long-inaccessible official report-summaries
(Ref. 7) makes readily available to interested scientists a large number of fas-
cinating UFO reports. Many are in the multiple-witness catecrory, for example,
the dawn (0715 PST) sighting at Larson AFB where "over sixty varied military
and civilian sources observed one green disc-shaped object. The observations
continued for fifteen minutes during which time the obiect moved in a south-
westerly direction while bobbing vertically and going sideways. There was no

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