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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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The crowd's attention to events in the sky did not lapse when the first object
was lost from view, and, about nine minutes later, someone spotted a second
,object, whereupon the event was again announced via the public address system.
Still a third object was brought to the attention of the crowd in the same
manner at 11 :25. The second object came out of the north, the third came from
almost due west. In the third case, someone thought of timing the oscillation
frequency (all three exhibited the same unconventional oscillation, with sun-
glint perceptible in certain of the instances of tipping, Taylor mentioned). The
oscillation frequency was clocked at 48 per minute. In the official report are
height estimates and some disparate comments on color, etc., from several other
witnesses, as well as remarks on other sightings in the same area on the same
day. Full details cannot be recounted here, for reasons of space limitation.
Taylor,in his statement submitted to official ingestigators, said:
"My experience in radio control of pilotless aircraft and guided missiles
for the Navy at NAMU during the war, and over 20 years of aircraft study,
does not permit my identification of the objects which were seen. They definitely
were not balloons, birds, common aircraft, parachutes, stars, meteors, paper,
-clouds, or other common objects. They moved in a regular motion either straight
or in curved lines. They were all at approximately the same altitude, but
moved on different courses as indicated on the sketch. The oscillations were
clearly visible and timed on the 3rd sighting * *
Discussion.—The official explanation for this case is "Balloons". I obtained
information on upper winds over that part of Washington on that day (700 and
500 mb charts), and the flow aloft between 10,000 and 20,000 ft was from the
southwest. The objects, all reported as about the same angular size, came from
three distinctly different directions, all within a period of less than an hour. This
immediately casts very strong doubt on the balloon hypothesis, as does the flipping
motion, the sunglint, and, above all, the fact that no pilot balloon stations were
located close upwind of Longview. Furthermore, a typical pilot balloon of about
1 meter diameter could be no higher than about 2500 ft altitude to subtend as
large an angle as 10 minutes of arc. Taylor's report (official files) gave transit
times of 2-3 minutes for the unknowns to cross the Longview sky, and, during
such a time interval, the normal ascent rate of a pilot balloon would carry it up
by 1200-1800 ft. To then fit the angular-size requirements would clearly require
that the balloons have been released at some nearby location, which fails to match
known pibal-station locations at that time. Furthermore, surface winds were from
the west, and winds a short distance above the ground were southwesterly, as
indicated by pulpmill smoke-drift described in Taylor's report. This, plus the
previously cited upper-flow directions, contradict the balloon hypothesis for all
three directions of arrival, particularly those coming from north and northwest.
To hypothesize that these were, say, Skyhook balloons coming from three differ-
ent (unknown) sites, at three different high altitudes, but all so arranged that
the apparent balloon diameter came out at about the same 10 minutes of arc
each time is scarcely reasonable. In all, I can only regard the balloon explanation
as untenable.
Disc-shaped objects have been sighted in dozens of instances, including Arnold's
6/24/47 Mt. Rainer sighting. In many, though not all, the odd flipping or flutter-
ing motion has been described by witnesses (Refs. 8, 10). What the dynamical
signficance of this might be is unclear. We know no more about this in 1968
than we knew in 1947, because such observations have been ignored as nonsense—
or misidentified balloons.
3. Case 11. Salt Lake City, Utah, Oct. 3, 1961
A midday sighting of a lens-shaped object involving one airborne witness and
seven witnesses on the ground became headline news in Salt Lake City (Ref. 32).
Accounts of the incident have been summarized elsewhere (Refs. 2, 10, 13, 25).
A private pilot, Mr. Waldo J. Harris, was taking off on Runway 160 at Utah
Central Airport at almost exactly noon on 10/2/61 when he noted what he at first
idly viewed as a distant airplane. He noted it again in the same area just after
becoming airborne, once more after gaining some altitude, and then became some-
what puzzled that it had not exhibited any appreciable change of position. About
then it seemed to tilt, glinting in the noonday sun, and exhibiting a shape unlike
any aircraft. To get a better view, Harris climbed towards the southeast and
found himself at its altitude when he was somewhat above 6000 ft. By then it
appeared as a biconvex metallic gray object, decidedly different from conven-
tional aircraft, so he radioed back to the airport, where eventually seven persons
were taking turns viewing it with binoculars. I have interviewed not only Harris,

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