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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
48
the
fact,
so
the
somewhat
confused
recollective
impressions
I
gained are
not
sur-
prising.
But
that
unidentified
aerial
objects
moved
in
numbers
over
Farmington
on
3/17/50
seems
clear.
One
witness
with
whom
I
spoke, Clayton
J.
Boddy,
esti-
mated
that
he had
bserved
a
total
of
20
to
30
disc
-shaped
objects,
including
one
red
one
substantially
larger
than
the
others,
moving
at
high
velocity
acrossthe
Farmington
sky
on
the
late
morning
of 3/17/50.
John
Eaton,
a
Farmington
realtor,
described
being
called
out
of
a
barbershop
when
the
excitement
began
and
seeing
a
high, fast
object
suddenly
joined
by
many
objects
that darted
after
It.
Eaton
sent
me
a
copy
of
an
account
he had
jotted
down
shortly
after
the
inci-
dent.
A
former
Navy
pilot,
Eaton
put
their
height
at
perhaps
15,000
ft.
"The
object
that
has
me
puzzled
was
the
one
we
saw
that
was
definitely
red.
It
was
seen
by
several
and
stated
by
all
to
be
red
and
travelling
northeast
at
a
terrific
speed."
Eaton
also
spoke
of the
way
the
smaller
objects
would
"turn
and
appear
to
be
fiat,
then turn
and
appear
to
be
round,"
a
description
matching
an
oscil-
lating disc
-shaped
object.
No
one
described
seeing
any
wings
or
tails,
and
the
emphasis
upon
the
darting,
"bee
-like"
motion
was
in several
of the accounts
I
obtained
from
witnesses.
I
obtained
more
details,
but
the
above
must
suffice
here
for
a
brief
summary.
Discussion.—This
once
-headlined,
but
now
almost
forgotten multiple-witness
case
has
been
explained
as
resulting
from
the
breakup
of
a
Skyhook
balloon
(Ref.
25).
Skyhooks
do
shatter
at the very
low
temperatures
of
the
upper
troposphere,
and
occasionally
break
into
a
number
of
smaller
pieces.
But
to
suggest that
such
fragments
of
transparent
plastic
at
altitudes
of the
order of
40-50,000
ft.
could
be
detected
by
the
naked
eye,
and
to
intimate
that
these
distant objects
of
low
angular
velocity
could
confuse
dozens of persons
into describing
fast-moving
disc
-
shaped
objects
(including
a
large
red
object)
is
simply not
reasonable.
However,
to
check
further
on
this,
I
contacted
first
HoHoman
AFB
and
then
the
Office
ofNaval
Research,
who
jointly
hold records
on
all
Alamogordo
Skyhook
releases.
No
Skyhooks
or
other
experimental
balloons
had
been
released
from
the
HoHo-
man
area or
any
other
part
of
the
country
on
or near the
date
of
this incident.
A
suggestion
that
the
witnesses
were
seeing
only
cotton
-wisps
was
not only
unreasonable, given
the
witness
accounts,
but
was
in fact tracked
down
by
a
local journalist
to
comments
casually
made
by
a
law
enforcement
officer
and
overheard
by
andther
reporter.
From
my
examination of
this
case,
I
see
no
ready
explanation
for
the
numerous
disc
-shaped
objects
moving
in unconventional
manner and
seen
by
large
numbers
of
Farmington
residents
on
3
/
1
7/50.
2.
Case
10.
Longview, Wash., July
8,
1949
Many
of the
UFO
cases
I
am
citing
are
drawn
intentionally
from
earlier
years,
in order
to
illustrate
that the evidence for the
existence
of
a
quite
real
and
scientifically
significant
phenomenon has
been with
us
for
a
disturb-
ing
number
of
years.
I
discuss
next
a
case
on
which
I
hold
copies
of
material
from
the
official
investigative
files,
copies
that
state
that
this
incident
was
"observed
by 150
other people
at
an
Air
Show",
in
addition
to
the
reporting
witness,
Moulton
B.
Taylor.
I
have
interviewed
Mr.
Taylor
and have
obtained
strong
recommendations
of
his
reliability
from a
former
superior
officer,
Adm.D.
S.
Fahrney, under
whom
Taylor
served in
Navy
guided
missiles
work
prior
to the
incident.
Taylor
is
an
aeronautical engineer,
and
was
airport
manager
at Longview,
in
charge of
an
air
show
that
was
to
be
held
on
the afternoon
of
7/
3
/
4
9, the
day
of the
incident
in
question.
A
skywriting
Stearman
was
at
10,000
ft.
at 10:40
a.m.,
laying
down
"Air
Show
Today", and
hence
holding
the
attention
of
a number
of the
personnel already at the
airport,
when
the
first
of three
unidentified objects
flew
over at high
altitude.
Alerted
by one
of
the
persons
who
first
spotted
the
object
coming from
the northwest, Taylor
got
on
the
public
address system
and announced
to
all
persons at
hand
that
they should look
up
to see the
odd
object.
Many
had
binoculars,
and among
the over
150
persons present
were
police
officers,
city
officials
and a number
of Longview's leading
citizens,
Taylor emphasized.
The
object
was
observed
by
a number
of experienced
pilots;
and,
according to
official file
summaries,
all
agreed that the
object
was
shaped
much
like
a
discus.
It
seemed
to
have
metallic luster
and
oscillated periodically
as
it
crossed the sky from
northwestto southeast
until lost
in mill
-smoke. Taylor
described the motion as
a
"sculling
or
falling-leaf
motion rather
than
a movement
through the axis of the disc.'
Its
angular
size
he estimated as about that of
a
pinhead at arm's length,
orabout that of
a
DC
-3
at 30,000
ft.,
both of which come
out to be near
10
minutes
of arc (one-third of moon's diameter).

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