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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 18 …Some of these statements which lead to mis- conceptions are: —(1) Only UFO "buffs" report UFO…
  • p. 19 …One great misconception is that only UFO buffs report UFO's; quite the opposite is the…
  • p. 25 …saw their very impressive and sur- prising UFO files, the pattern of which is entirely different…
  • p. 39 …files and modes of operation of both private and official (i.e., Project Bluebook) UFO investigative…
  • p. 41 …Misinter- preted natural phenomena (Hypothesis 3) do explain many sincerely -submitted UFO reports; but, as I…
  • p. 45 …It summarizes about 750 UFO cases in the NICAP files up to about
  • p. 46 …Reference 7 is another now -accessible source of extremely significant UFO documentation; it is unfortunate that…
  • p. 54 …Longview, Wash., July 8, 1949 Many of the UFO cases I am citing are drawn intentionally…
  • p. 60 54 terrestrial hypothesis for UFOs, incomprehensibility must be expected as almost inevitable. Hence there is more…
  • p. 63 …NICAP files. The article, by Post reporter Jimmie Woods, represents one of those rare UFO feature…
  • p. 68 …5) remarks that an astronomer working under con- tract to the official UFO investigatory program interviewed…
  • p. 70 …UFO sightings by meteorologists could be extended very con- siderably by drawing on my file of…
  • p. 72 …the UFO problem in the ensuing two-year period. Many details from the official file on…
  • p. 75 …In my files are many other "balloon" cases from the past twenty years, cases that ought…
  • p. 76 …The third target was spotted visually by myself," Hemphill's signed statement in the case -file…
  • p. 78 …25), who evidently drew his information from the official files. Ruppelt (Ref. 5) states that when…
  • p. 79 …unknowns in official files to be ignored. A famous case in UFO annals involved a B…
  • p. 86 …explanations for classic UFO cases that have been made in the official files in the last…
  • p. 91 …Official file on October 15, 1948 Fukuoka case, Project Bluebook. 43. Melbourne (Australia) Sun, December 16…
  • p. 120 …During that night, and several succeeding nights, there were many reports of UFO's over northern…
  • p. 128 …THE UFO PROPULSION PROBLEM By way of introducing the propulsion problem of UFO's, I will…
  • p. 185 179 rod N.T.TuDE tOURIE 3• MOTION OF UFO SYSTIM a..„. — 73 2.3 2…
  • p. 206 …for a UFO. This viewpoint is absolutely nonsense and the Air Force files bear witness to…
  • p. 207 …But such behavior does not imply, as the UFO addicts argue, the presence of an intelligence…
  • p. 208 …He watches the UFO for a minute or two until it finally disappears. He cannot be…
  • p. 218 …UFO presence. This can be done with existing information. Up- date and upgrade the files with…
  • p. 224 …claimed to have observed a UFO. Interestingly enough the official files con- tain fewer than 12…
  • p. 239 …Indeed, at present the scientific study of the UFO problem is greatly hampered by the circumstance…
  • p. 244 …The dotted line represents "re- liable" sightings in the files of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization…
  • p. 245 …Many radar sightings of UFO's are on file. In a few cases, a UFO has…
  • p. 247 …He states that he has on file more than 300 UFO sightings prior to the 20th…
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of the windshield as a point. The object moved past this member at about 50
degrees per second. This object was peculiar in that it had what can be described
as a halo around it with a dark undersurfa,ce. It crossed rapidly and then slowed
down and started to climb in lazy circles slowly. The pattern it made was like
a falling oak leaf inverted. It went through these gyrations for a couple minute
and then with a very rapid acceleration disappeared to the east. This object Dick
and I watched for approximately five minutes."
Shortly after, still another unknown object shot straight across the sky from
west to east, but not before Kaliszewski succeeded in radioing theodolite ob-
servers at the University of Minnesota Airport. Two observers there (Douglas
Smith, Richard Dorian) got fleeting glimpses of what appeared to them to be
a cigar-shaped object viewed through the theodolite, but could not keep it in view
due to its fast angular motion. In my conversations with Kaliszewski about these
sightings, I gained the impression of talking with a careful observer, in full
accord with impressions held by three other independent sources, including Air
Force investigators.
Discussion.—The October 10 sighting is officially categorized as "Aircraft,"
the October 11 main sighting as "Unidentified." When I mentioned this to Kalis-
zewski, he was unable to understand how any distinction could be so drawn be-
tween the two sightings, both of which he felt matched no known aeronautical
device. Clearly, objects performing such intricate maneuvers are not meteors,
nor can they be fitted to any known meteorological explanations of which I am
aware. Instead, these objects seem best described as devices well beyond the
state of 1951 (or 1968) technology.
5. Case 5. Willow Grove,Pa., May 21,1966
Skipping over many other pilot observations to a more recent one which I
have personally checked, I call attention to a close-range airborne sighting of a
domed-disc, seen under midday conditions by two observers. One of them, Wil-
liam C. Powell, of Radnor, Pa., is a pilot with 18,000 logged flight hours. He
and a passenger, Miss Muriel McClave, were flying in Powell's Luscombe in the
Philadelphia area on the afternoon of 5/21/66 when an object that had been
first spotted as it apparently followed an outbound flight of Navy jets from
'Willow Grove NAS made a sharp (non-banking) turn and headed for Powell's
plane on a near-collision course. As the object passed close by, at a distance that
Powell put at roughly 100 yards, they both got a good look at the object. It was
circular in planform and had no wings or visible means of propulsion, both wit-
nesses emphasized to me in interviews. The upper domed portion they described
as "porcelain-white", while the lower discoid portion was bright red ("dayglow
red" Powell put it). It was slightly below their altitude as it passed on their
right, and Powell pointed out that it was entirely solid, for it obscured the dis-
tant horizon areas. His brief comment about its solidity and reality was, "It
was just like looking at a Cadillac." He estimated its airspeed as perhaps 200
mph, and it moved in a steady, non-fluttering manner. He estimated its diameter
at perhaps 20 feet. Miss McClave thought it might have been nearer 40 feet
across. Each put the thickness-to-diameter ratio as about one-half. After it passed
their starboard wing, Powell could see it only by looking back over his shoulder
through a small aft window, but Miss McClave had it in full view when suddenly,
she stated to me, it disappeared instantaneously, and they saw no more of it.
Discussion.—Powell flies executive transports for a large Eastern firm, after
years of military and airline duty. I have discussed the case with one of his
superiors, who speaks without qualification for Powell's trustworthiness. At a
UFO panel discussion held on April 22, 1967 at the annual meeting of the Ameri-
can Society of Newspaper Editors, Powell was asked to summarize his sighting.
His account is in the proceedings of that session (Ref. 30). I know of no natural
phenomenon that could come close to explaining this sighting. The visibility was
about 15 miles, they were flying in the clear at 4500 ft., and the object passed
nearby. A pilot with 18,000 hours flight experience is not capable of precise
midair distance and speed estimates, but his survival has probably hinged on
not commonly making errors of much over a factor or two. Given the account
and accepting its reliability, it seems necessary to say that here was one more
case of what Gen. Samford described as "credible observers seeing relatively
incredibile objects". I felt that Powell's summary of his sighting at the ASNE
meeting was particularly relevant because, in addition to my being on the panel
there, Dr. D. H. Menzel and Mr. Philip J. Klass, both strong exponents of meteoro-
logical-type UFO theories, were present to hear his account. I cannot see how one
could explain this incident in terms of meteorological optics nor in terms of ball
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