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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
41
I
hold
no
brief
at
all
for the
latter
in
terms
of
my
present
knowledge
and
inter-
viewing
experience.
But
occupants
there
seem
to
be,
and
contact
of
a
limited
sort
may
well
have
occurred,
according to
certain
of
the
reports.
I
do
not
regard
myself
as
very
vell-informed
on
this
point,
and
will
say
little
more on
this
below.)
It
is,
of
course,
somewhat
more
difficult
to assess
the
reliability
of
foreign
UFO
references.
Michel
(Ref.
13)
has
assembled
a
day-by-day
account
of the
remarkable
French
UFO
wave
of
the
fall
of
1954,
translated
into
English
by
the
staff
of
CSI
(Civilian
Saucer
Intelligence)
of
New
York
City,
a now
-inactive
but once
very
productive
independent
group.
I
have
spoken
with
persons
having
first-hand
knowledge
of
the
French
1954
episode,
and
they
attest
to
its
astonish-
ing
nature.
14
e
and
The
New
Yorker
published
full
contemporary
accounts
at
the
time
of
the
1954
European
wave.
An
earlier
book
by
Michel
(Ref.
14),
also
available
in
English,
deals
with
a
broader
temporal
and
geographic
range
of
European
UFO
sightings.
A
just
-published
account
of
about
70
UFO
sightings
that
occurred within
a
relatively
small area
around
Stoke-on-Trent,
England,
in
the
summer
and
fall
of
1967 (Ref.
15)
presents
an
unusual
cross-section`of
sightings
that
appear
to
be
well
-documented.
A
number
of
foreign
UFO
journals
are
helpful
sources of
the steady
flow
of
UFO
reports
from
other
parts
of the
world,
but
a
cataloging
will
not be
attempted
here.
Information
on
some
of
these,
as
well
as
on
smaller
American
groups,
can
be
found
in
the
two
important books
by
Vallee
(Refs.
16
and
17).
Information
on
pre
-1947
UFO
-type sightings
form
the
subject
of
a
recent
study
by Lore
and
Denault (Ref.
18).
I
shall
return
to
this
phase
of the
UFO
problem
below;
I
regard
it
as
being
of
potentially
very great
significance,
though
there
is
need
for
far
more
scholarly
and
scientific
research before
much
of
it
can
be
safely interpreted.
Another
source
of
sightings
of
which
many
may
ultimately
be
found
to
fall
within the
presently
understood
category
of
UFO
sightings
is
the
writings
of Charles
Fort (Ref.
19).
His
curious
books
are
oftemOrawn upon
for
material
on
old
sightings,
but not
often
duly
acknowledged
for
the
mine
of
infor-
mation
they
comprise.
I
am
afraid
that
it
has
not been
fashionable
to
take
Fort
seriously;
it
certainly
took
me
some
time
to recognize
that,
mixed
into
his
vol-
uminous
writings,
is
much
that
remains untapped
for
its
scientific
import.
I
cannot imagine
any
escalated
program
of
research
on
the
UFO
program
that
would
not
have
a
subgroup
studying
Fortean
reports
documented
from
19th
century
sources.
To
close this brief
compilation of useful
UFO
references,
two
recent
commen-
taries
(not
primarily source
-references)
of merit
may
be
cited,
books
by
Stanton
(Ref.
20) and
by
Young
(Ref.
21).
Next,
I
examine
a
number
of
specific
UFO
cases
that
shed
light
on
many
of
the
recurrent questions
of
skeptical
slant often raised
against
serious considera-
tion
of the
UFO
problem.
WHY
DON'T PILOTS
SEE
*UFO'S?This
question
may
come
in just
that
form from
persons
with
essentially
no
knoweldge
of
UFO
history.
From
others
who
do
know
that there
have
been
"a few"
pilot
-sightings,
it
comes
in
some
altered
form, such
as,
"Why
don't
airline
and
military
pilots
see
UFO's
all
the
time
if
they are in
our atmosphere?"
By
way
of
partial
answer,
consider
the
following
cases.
(To
facilitate
internal reference,
I
shall
number
sequentially
all
cases hereafter treated
in
detail.)
•
1.
Case
1. Boise,
Idaho, July
4,
1947
Only about
a week
after
the
now
-famous
Mt.
Rainier
sighting
by
private
pilot
Kenneth
Arnold,
a
United Air Lines
DC
-3
crew
sighted
two
separate formations
of
wingless
discs,
shortly after takeoff
from
Boise (Refs.
8, 10, 22,
2Q.
I
located
and
interviewed the
pilot,
Capt.
Emil
J.
Smith,
now
with
United's
New
York
office.
He
confirmed the
reliability
of
previously published accounts.
United Flight
105 had
left
Boise at 9:04 p.m.
About
eight
minutes
out,
en
route to
Seattle,
roughly over
Emmet,
Idaho,
Co-pilot
Stevens,
who
spotted
the
first
of
twogroups
of
objects,
turned
on
his
landing
lights
under the
initial
impression theobjects
were
aircraft.
But, studying
them
against the
twilight sky,
Smith andStevens soon
realized
that neither
wings nor
tails
were
visible
on
the, five
objects
ahead. After
calling
a
stewardess, in order to get
a
third confirming witness,
they watched the formation
a
bit
longer, called Ontario,
Oregon
CAA
to try to
get ground
-confirmation,
and then
saw
the formation spurt ahead and
disappear
at high speed
off to the west.

Cases discussed

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