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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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1964.
I
have
cross-checked
a
sufficiently
large
sample
of
cases
from
this
reference
to
have
confidence
in
its
generally
very
high
reliability.
A
sequel
volume,
now
in
editorial
preparation
at
NICAP,
will
cover
the
1964-68
period.
Reference
8,
by
Bloecher,
is
one of
the
few
sources of extensive
documentation
(here
primarily
from
national
newspaper
sources)
of
the
large
cluster
of
sightings
in
a
period
of
just
a
few
weeks
in
the
summer
of
1947;
its
study
is
essential
to
appreciation
of
the
opening phases
of the
publicly
recognized
UFO
problem. Reference
7
is
another
now
-accessible
source of
extremely
significant
UFO
documentation;
it
is
unfortunate that
no
generally
accessible
version
of
Reference
6
exists,
though
the
Moss
Subcommittee, through
pleas
of
Dr. Leon
Davidson,
has
managed
to
get
it
into
a
status
of
at
least
limited
accessibility.
I
am
indebted
to
Davidson
for
a
recent opportunity
to
study
it
for
details
I
missed
when
I
saw
it
two
years
ago
at
Bluebook
headquarters.
The
1956
book
by
Ruppelt
(Ref.
5)
is
a
source
whose
authenticity
I
have
learned,
through
much
personal
cross-checking,
is
far
higher
than
I
surmised
when
I
first
read
it
a
dozen
years ago. It
was
for years
difficult
for
me
to
believe
that
the case
-material
which
he summarized
could
come
from
real
cases.
Refer-
ences
5
and
6, plus
other
sources,
do,
however,
now
attest
to
Ruppelt's
generally
high
reliability.
Similarly
Keyhoe's books (Refs.
3
and
4)
emerge as
sources
of
UFO
case material
whose
reliability
far
exceeds
my
own
first
estimates
thereof.
As
a
scientist,
I
would have
been
much
more
comfortable
about
Keyhoe's books
had
they been
shorn
of
extensive
direct
quotes
and
suspenseful
dramatizations;
but
I
must
stress
that
much
checking
on
my
part
has
convinced
me
that
Keyhoe's
reportorial
accuracy
was
almost
uniformly
high.
Scientists will
tend
to
be put
off
by
some
of
his
scientific
commentary,
as
well
as
by
his style;
but
on
UFO
case
material,
his
reliability
must
be
recognized
as
impressive.
(Perhaps
it
is
well
to
insert
here the general
proviso
that
none
of
these sources,
including
my-
self,
can
be
expected
to
be
characterized
by 100
per cent
accuracy
in
a
problem
as
intrinsically
messy as
the
UFO
problem;
here
I
am
trying
to
draw
attention
to
sources
whose
reliability
appears
to
be
in
the
90+%
range.)
A
useful
collection
of
160
UFO
cases
drawn
from a
wide
variety
of
sources
has
been
published
by
Olsen
(Ref.
11),
32
of
which he
obtained
directly
from
the
official
files
of Project
Bluebook,
a
feature of
particular
interest.
A
book
devoted
to
a
single
short
period of
numerous
UFO
observations
within
a
small
geographicarea,
centering
around
an
important
sighting
near
Exeter, N.H.,
is
Fuller's
Incident at
Exeter (Ref.
12).
Having
checked
personally
on
a
number
of features
of the
main
Sept.
3,
1965,
sighting,
and
having checked
indirectly
on
other
as-
pects,
I
would
describe
Reference
12
as
one
of
the
significant
source
-items
on
UFOs.
Several
books
by
the Lorenzens,
organizers
of
APRO,
the
oldest
continuing
UFO
investigating
group
in
this
country, contain valuable
UFO
reference
mate-
rial
(Ref.
13).
Through
their
writing,
and
especially
through the
APRO
Bulletin,
they
have
transmitted
from
South
American
sources
numerous
unusual
sightings
from
that country.
I
have
had
almost
no
opportunity to
cross-check
those
sight-
ings,
but
am
satisfied
that
some
quite
reliable
sources are being
drawn
upon.
An
extremely
unusual
category of
cases,
those involving reports
of
humanoid
oc-
cupants
of
landed
UFOs,
has
been explored to
a
greater
extent
by
APRO
than
by
NICAP.
Like
NICAP,
I
have
tended
to
skirt
such
cases
on
tactical
grounds;the
reports
are
bizarre,
and
the circumstances
of
all
such
sightings
are
auto-
matically
charged
in
a
psychological
sense
not
found
in other types of
close
-
range
sightings
of
mere
machine
-like
devices.
Since
I
shall
not take
up
below
this
occupant problem,
let
me
add
the
comment
that
I do
regard the
total
number
of such seemingly
reliable
reports
(well over
a
hundred
came
just
from
cen-tral
France
in the outstanding
1954
sighting
wave
in
that country), far
too
great
to brush
aside.
Expert
psychological opinion
is
badly needed
in assessing
such
reports
(expert but not
close-minded opinion).
For
the record,
I
should
have
to
state
that
my
interviewing
results
dispose
me
toward
acceptance of the existence
of
humanoid
occupants in
some UFOs. I
would not argue with
those
who
say thatthis
might be the
single
most important element of the
entire
UFO
puzzle;
I
would
only say that
most
of
my
efforts
over the past
two
years, being
aimedat arousing
a new
degree of
scientific
interest
among
my
colleagues in
the
physi-
cal sciences,
have
led
me
to play
down
even the
little
that
I do know
about
occupant
sightings.
One
or
two
early attempts to touch upon
that point within
the time
-limits
of
a
one-hour colloquium taught
me
that one
loses
more than
he gains in speaking
briefly
about
UFO
occupants.
(Occupant
sightings
must becarefully distinguished
from
elaborate "contact-claims" with the Space Brothers;

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